New Clown not moving much day 3

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Hey all, I added a Clownfish to my tank. Acclimated him correctly and on day 1 he was eating and acting normal. Now on days 2 and 3 he has pretty much hung out in the same spot and not very active. He is the odd man out but my daughter had to have him. Other fish don’t seem to bother him either. Is he just doing clownfish things? Wouldn’t take mysis or pellets today. Thank you
 

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Hey all, I added a Clownfish to my tank. Acclimated him correctly and on day 1 he was eating and acting normal. Now on days 2 and 3 he has pretty much hung out in the same spot and not very active. He is the odd man out but my daughter had to have him. Other fish don’t seem to bother him either. Is he just doing clownfish things? Wouldn’t take mysis or pellets today. Thank you
Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Clownfish can be pretty sly and dominate their tankmates when you aren’t watching them. Still, I don’t see any ripped fins on this smaller clown.

I can’t tell from the video, is it breathing faster than the other clown?
What are your water quality parameters?

Jay
 
Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Clownfish can be pretty sly and dominate their tankmates when you aren’t watching them. Still, I don’t see any ripped fins on this smaller clown.

I can’t tell from the video, is it breathing faster than the other clown?
What are your water quality parameters?

Jay
Hey thank you. I know they can be pretty weird at times. His breathing doesn’t seem to be any different. Yesterday I noticed some clear stringy poo hanging from him but also read that could be from mysis. So I tried not feeding him that anymore yesterday. Today he wouldn’t take any food. Paramateres look good. Nitrites are 0, nitrates are 5, ammonia 0, temp 79, ph is 7.8.
 
Hey thank you. I know they can be pretty weird at times. His breathing doesn’t seem to be any different. Yesterday I noticed some clear stringy poo hanging from him but also read that could be from mysis. So I tried not feeding him that anymore yesterday. Today he wouldn’t take any food. Paramateres look good. Nitrites are 0, nitrates are 5, ammonia 0, temp 79, ph is 7.8.

Any time a new fish was eating, but now is not, it is a very serious issue. The mucus feces can have a few different causes, some serious, some not, but when combined with the fish not eating, that is always serious. Trouble is, there are not any symptoms here that point me towards a single issue. At t he very least, I would move this clown to a acclimation tank, one of those hang on the side, vented containers, with a bit of rock to hide near. It would be better though, to move it to a treatment tank and medicate it with General Cure for common internal infections.

Here is something I wrote on mucus feces, in case any of it sounds like your case:

Idiopathic mucus feces: this fancy term is just to describe white mucoid bulky feces of no serious consequence, but of an unknown cause. Some suspicion is that this can be caused by changes in diet or diets high in fats.

Starvation: Fish that have no food moving through their bowels may excrete white mucoid feces with little bulk to them. The primary diagnostic for this issue is evident in that the fish won’t been seen to be eating. Resolving the anorexia is of course the prime focus to resolve this issue.

Bacterial infection: internal bacterial infections can cause stringy feces as well. While some of these may resolve on their own, medicated foods containing a broad spectrum, gram negative oral antibiotic may be required.

Metazoan infections: multicellular worms are often blamed for mucoid feces, but in reality, they are almost never the root cause for this, and really, can only be diagnosed through looking for their ova in fecal samples. Fish can harbor tapeworms and nematodes without producing mucoid feces.

Protozoan infection: Hexamita and related diplomonad flagellate protozoans very frequently cause white stringy feces, especially in newly acquired clownfish. Metronidazole is the most frequent treatment for this issue. It can be dosed orally at 25 mg per kg of fish body weight, or 5 g in a kg of food. However, it is a very bitter medication, and some fish will refuse to feed on food containing it. It can be dosed in the water at 25 mg/l, but this is more effective in treating marine fishes, as freshwater fish do not “drink” aquarium water.

Coccidia: These microscopic, spore-forming, single-celled parasites are common diseases in dogs and cats. In fish, they cause epithelial necrosis of the gut, enteritis and the copious production of mucus (Noga 2010). These cannot be diagnosed without microscopic examination, and there is no well researched cure for this in fishes, although Toltrazuril has been tested.

Constipation: This malady is often given as a cause for stringy feces, but it is not as common as one would think. When it is seen, the feces are usually dark, not light in color. Often touted as a “cure for constipation”, many aquarists add Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the aquarium’s water – do not do this in marine aquariums, its use is primarily as a tonic/dip for freshwater fish. Seawater formulas already contain between 7 and 19 grams of magnesium sulfate per gallon (depending on the recipe). NSW magnesium level is around 1200 ppm and sulfur is around 840 ppm. Some benefit might be seen using it as a dip in additional concentrations, but adding a small amount to a marine aquarium itself has no benefit. Epsom salts do have some possible benefit when mixed into the food as a 3% by weight adjunct. Another commonly heard remedy for constipation is; “feed fresh peas”. This is an effective cure for fancy goldfish and Malawi cichlids that develop constipation and bloating. Again, overextrapolation has marine aquarists trying to feed peas to carnivorous fish, etc. The best method to enhance gut motility in fish is to feed frozen adult brine shrimp – not as a permanent diet, just long enough to get the constipation resolved.

Jay
 
Any time a new fish was eating, but now is not, it is a very serious issue. The mucus feces can have a few different causes, some serious, some not, but when combined with the fish not eating, that is always serious. Trouble is, there are not any symptoms here that point me towards a single issue. At t he very least, I would move this clown to a acclimation tank, one of those hang on the side, vented containers, with a bit of rock to hide near. It would be better though, to move it to a treatment tank and medicate it with General Cure for common internal infections.

Here is something I wrote on mucus feces, in case any of it sounds like your case:

Idiopathic mucus feces: this fancy term is just to describe white mucoid bulky feces of no serious consequence, but of an unknown cause. Some suspicion is that this can be caused by changes in diet or diets high in fats.

Starvation: Fish that have no food moving through their bowels may excrete white mucoid feces with little bulk to them. The primary diagnostic for this issue is evident in that the fish won’t been seen to be eating. Resolving the anorexia is of course the prime focus to resolve this issue.

Bacterial infection: internal bacterial infections can cause stringy feces as well. While some of these may resolve on their own, medicated foods containing a broad spectrum, gram negative oral antibiotic may be required.

Metazoan infections: multicellular worms are often blamed for mucoid feces, but in reality, they are almost never the root cause for this, and really, can only be diagnosed through looking for their ova in fecal samples. Fish can harbor tapeworms and nematodes without producing mucoid feces.

Protozoan infection: Hexamita and related diplomonad flagellate protozoans very frequently cause white stringy feces, especially in newly acquired clownfish. Metronidazole is the most frequent treatment for this issue. It can be dosed orally at 25 mg per kg of fish body weight, or 5 g in a kg of food. However, it is a very bitter medication, and some fish will refuse to feed on food containing it. It can be dosed in the water at 25 mg/l, but this is more effective in treating marine fishes, as freshwater fish do not “drink” aquarium water.

Coccidia: These microscopic, spore-forming, single-celled parasites are common diseases in dogs and cats. In fish, they cause epithelial necrosis of the gut, enteritis and the copious production of mucus (Noga 2010). These cannot be diagnosed without microscopic examination, and there is no well researched cure for this in fishes, although Toltrazuril has been tested.

Constipation: This malady is often given as a cause for stringy feces, but it is not as common as one would think. When it is seen, the feces are usually dark, not light in color. Often touted as a “cure for constipation”, many aquarists add Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the aquarium’s water – do not do this in marine aquariums, its use is primarily as a tonic/dip for freshwater fish. Seawater formulas already contain between 7 and 19 grams of magnesium sulfate per gallon (depending on the recipe). NSW magnesium level is around 1200 ppm and sulfur is around 840 ppm. Some benefit might be seen using it as a dip in additional concentrations, but adding a small amount to a marine aquarium itself has no benefit. Epsom salts do have some possible benefit when mixed into the food as a 3% by weight adjunct. Another commonly heard remedy for constipation is; “feed fresh peas”. This is an effective cure for fancy goldfish and Malawi cichlids that develop constipation and bloating. Again, overextrapolation has marine aquarists trying to feed peas to carnivorous fish, etc. The best method to enhance gut motility in fish is to feed frozen adult brine shrimp – not as a permanent diet, just long enough to get the constipation resolved.

Jay
Thank you for the write up, I’ll. Have to get a hang on for the time being and setup a smaller tank to quarantine. I haven’t gotten that far yet. Poor planning on my part I guess. The fish actually took a little food last night but just kept spitting it back out. I tried soaking some mysis in selcon to entice but wasn’t successful. I’ll do a little more research myself and see if I can get him squared away. Thanks again
 

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