New fish didnt make it.. thoughts?

[michellejy]

thank you bud! really helpful! going to get some!!! and give it a go, Wont add nothing for approx 1 month, see how things go!

If you use the stability and don't add anything, just make sure to feed the tank to keep the bacteria alive.

 

[Flameback Pair]

I think the only thing you did wrong is pick the wrong specie. Bicolor angels are notorious for dying right after introduction, just do some research. I've had quite a bit of experience with this specie and have probably killed about half of it's numbers in existence. LOL I started a thread on RC that reached 3 1/2 pages and it was all about reefers trying to introduce the fish with no luck. I have an obsession with this fish because angels are my favorite family of fishes and the bicolor bears my high school colors. The last time I attempted to keep this fish I floated the bag for a half an hour followed by an hour drip acclimation, then I quieted my tank by turning the lights off and powering down the flow to half throttle before adding the angel to the display. The next day I retruned the lights and flow to normal and added a BIG bunch of adult brine shrimp that I gut-loaded with Selcon the night before and added them to the display. I also added some Kent Marine garlic oil the the tank and with all the commotion all of the livestock went into a feeding frenzy. Needless to say the angel survived about a week although he appeared to eat some brine shrimp. With what the experts have to say, the problem seems to lie with difficulties in collection and recovery from collection of the specie from the reef.

 

[Nicknackzz13]

Overfeeding, especially broadcast feeding corals can contribute to ammonia. The thing is that your biological filtration should be able to quickly break the ammonia down into nitrite and then nitrate. What is your tank size and how much live rock do you have?

40g breeder with 25lbs of live rock

I plan on getting some dry rock and live rock to put in to fill it up a bit more, cause I upgraded from a 29g

 

[Nicknackzz13]

I think the only thing you did wrong is pick the wrong specie. Bicolor angels are notorious for dying right after introduction, just do some research. I've had quite a bit of experience with this specie and have probably killed about half of it's numbers in existence. LOL I started a thread on RC that reached 3 1/2 pages and it was all about reefers trying to introduce the fish with no luck. I have an obsession with this fish because angels are my favorite family of fishes and the bicolor bears my high school colors. The last time I attempted to keep this fish I floated the bag for a half an hour followed by an hour drip acclimation, then I quieted my tank by turning the lights off and powering down the flow to half throttle before adding the angel to the display. The next day I retruned the lights and flow to normal and added a BIG bunch of adult brine shrimp that I gut-loaded with Selcon the night before and added them to the display. I also added some Kent Marine garlic oil the the tank and with all the commotion all of the livestock went into a feeding frenzy. Needless to say the angel survived about a week although he appeared to eat some brine shrimp. With what the experts have to say, the problem seems to lie with difficulties in collection and recovery from collection of the specie from the reef.

Thank you bud really helpful, I do wanna angelfish in there, any suggestions? On what I could possibly pick up in the future that won't die on impact with water! Lol

 

[FishOfHex]

Fish are so hit or miss i find coral transport better. The best thing you can do is drip them and pray. Always quarantine for 4 weeks min.

 

[ReeferReefer]

I would suspect that your biologic filtration is inadequate. You need more rock if you are seeing Ammonia at all. You can try seachem pond matrix in a filter or high flow filtration area to expand your biofilter. Dwarf angels often die due to stress of collection and shipping. Best advice I can give is to find an angel for sale in your local reef club, that has been established in a tank for some time.

 

[Bdog4u2]

I'd say do slower drip acclimation 30 min to 1 hour. Make sure your tank has no Ammonia as well. Don't chase pH as long as it's stable. The other thing to consider is that angels often don't ship well. It could be delayed response to shipping. When possible I try to get my livestock from local Reefers who have them in established reef tanks.

Every fish in my tank had been in captivity for at least a year and now most of them have been with me 10-15 years. I've forgotten what's it like to get a new fish. I've never had ich or any other diseases. Join your local reef club and if there isn't one start one

 

[Bdog4u2]

Thank you bud really helpful, I do wanna angelfish in there, any suggestions? On what I could possibly pick up in the future that won't die on impact with water! Lol

Coral beauty and flames are easy.
I have the best looking coral beauty I've ever seen its almost all purple.
The tang is over 15 the angel 11

 

[ReeferReefer]

Every fish in my tank had been in captivity for at least a year and now most of them have been with me 10-15 years. I've forgotten what's it like to get a new fish. I've never had ich or any other diseases. Join your local reef club and if there isn't one start one

Exactly. I got my flame angel from a buddy in my reef club and he couldn't be healthier! (Although he has his own behavioral problems) Buying captive breed clowns from the LFS should be ok, but with sensitive fish its better to get them established. This also worked well with my Leopard Wrasse.