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I understood it to take some time, as in overnight, for levels to build up. Maybe Randy can chime in.
 
When the bag is sealed CO2 respirated by the fish cannot escape. CO2 lowers ph. When ph is below a certain point the ammonia is not toxic. But as soon as the bag is opened the CO2 is released and the ph comes back up to levels where ammonia is toxic.

Exactly. This is why you can ship fish across the nation having them floating in a sealed bag of their own filth and yet they arrive relatively healthy.

BTW: Did you check the salinity level at the LFS? A lot of stores keep their levels very low, I've seen 1.016. Raising that to 1.025, even with drip acclimation, can be very damaging to the fishes organs. I hope the other one doesn't die as well.
 
That's not how I read the thread. It applied to bagged fish. The fish was bagged from the LFS to the home of the OP.
You're not really going to have that issue going from the LFS to your home. It definitely applies more to shipped fish where the ammonia gets built up over time from their wastes and a finite volume of air in the bag.

I'll put it on how poorly leopard wrasses ship or transport. Next one you buy, ask if the LFS can bag it with some sand. Their mouth parts are so sensitive and they tend to dash when scared that most injure themselves beyond healing when out in a bag.
 
What was the salinity your wrasse was in the bag. Compare to salinity to your QT water. Always good to match QT salinity to your LFS. Than you can slowly raise it at later time. Most LFS keep salinity 1.13-1.16. Simply just a big jump of salinity for wrasse in a short period if your putting him in 1.20-1.26.
 
I understood it to take some time, as in overnight, for levels to build up. Maybe Randy can chime in.
You're not really going to have that issue going from the LFS to your home. It definitely applies more to shipped fish where the ammonia gets built up over time from their wastes and a finite volume of air in the bag.

I'll put it on how poorly leopard wrasses ship or transport. Next one you buy, ask if the LFS can bag it with some sand. Their mouth parts are so sensitive and they tend to dash when scared that most injure themselves beyond healing when out in a bag.
It would be easy enough to test. Water from an LFS system should have a reading of 0 ppm of ammonia, testing the water when you got home should tell you something. The fish will continue to excrete, and we are measuring in parts per million, so it won't take much to register an ammonia reading.
 
An hour drive home would not cause tox shock with 30-60 minute drip unless the store's water system is loaded with ammonia already and heavy aspiration just made the ph levels dangerously low. Is it unusual for Wrasse fish to have heart failure from stress?
 
An hour drive home would not cause tox shock with 30-60 minute drip unless the store's water system is loaded with ammonia already and heavy aspiration just made the ph levels dangerously low. Is it unusual for Wrasse fish to have heart failure from stress?
The low ph from aspiration renders the ammonia harmless.
 
Until you open the bag again. I don't see how an hour trip in the car could cause deadly levels of ammonia.
 
I purchased this leopard wrasse yesterday along with a flame angel. The flame angel is doing fine, but the wrasse died only after a couple hours. I drip acclimated him for over an hour. At first I thought the flame might have beat him up, but he looked untouched. Any ideas?

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Join the club, I got potters wrasse the next day it was dead. Not necessarily your fault
 
That's not how I read the thread. It applied to bagged fish. The fish was bagged from the LFS to the home of the OP.
Randy's reply ...
It certainly depends on the size and activity level of the fish relative to the water volume, and the length of time in the bag, but the effect for a brief trip is typically much smaller than when something is shipped. So I do not know if ammonia contributed significantly in the linked account or not.
 

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