New formulae for comp 123+

[Barry Bowen]

Hi
I've just started mixing my own comp 1+2+3+ using this recipe below.

Now with the new formula, does it stay exactly the same except Mg goes into 3+ now using same dosages/amounts ?

 

[120reefkeeper]

Hi
I've just started mixing my own comp 1+2+3+ using this recipe below.

Now with the new formula, does it stay exactly the same except Mg goes into 3+ now using same dosages/amounts ?

Yes [emoji4]

 

[Barry Bowen]

Ok
Thank you[emoji1303]

 

[madreefer11]

Can you substitute AF Ca, Mg and KH with something else?

 

[120reefkeeper]

Can you substitute AF Ca, Mg and KH with something else?

All of these mixing instructions are designed to be used with Aquaforest products alone. I cannot vouch for any other company's products or their purity or strength. [emoji6][emoji4]

 

[rob safron]

How much do you save by mixing your own

 

[120reefkeeper]

How much do you save by mixing your own

I would say better than half.

Here's a helpful video that goes into detail. This is the original recipe. You can mix it either way.

The difference is in the original the magnesium goes into component 1+. The new recipe the magnesium goes into component +3.

 

[rob safron]

Thanks I may go that route. My 120 is using 200 mls per day and going through the stuff quickly.

 

[120reefkeeper]

Thanks I may go that route. My 120 is using 200 mls per day and going through the stuff quickly.

My recommendation would be if you mix your own like in the video, start off with half of what your currently using . Test test test. Adjust accordingly. [emoji4][emoji6]

 

[rob safron]

Right now my Alk runs 7.1-7.2 CA 430 and MG 1410. If I want to raise Alk to 7.5-8.0 and bring down Mg, what do you suggest. I run theoretically a ULNS, undetectable Phoshate and Nitrate. But do clean the glass every other day.

 

[120reefkeeper]

Right now my Alk runs 7.1-7.2 CA 430 and MG 1410. If I want to raise Alk to 7.5-8.0 and bring down Mg, what do you suggest. I run theoretically a ULNS, undetectable Phoshate and Nitrate. But do clean the glass every other day.

You can mix up your own Alkalinity independently according to the directions on the Kh powder . Your mag is just fine where it's at. [emoji4]

Dose up your Kh a little to get where you want to be and then continue your dosing at your current rate. All you need to do is a little Kh bump is all. [emoji6]

 

[Barry Bowen]

I'm no pro at this but I like to get the correct dosage of Kh ( comp2 ) first and then dose comp 1 & 3 as recommended to dose all 3 equally.
I have noticed when mixing my own with new formula, I get less residue in comp 1 than I did in old recipe

 

[Ezeke1]

Thanks for putting this info together. Have you tried using double the ingredients for an extra strength formula? Larger tanks end up dosing close to 200ml a day at the normal formula so it would be nice if we can half the dose amount.

 

[120reefkeeper]

Thanks for putting this info together. Have you tried using double the ingredients for an extra strength formula? Larger tanks end up dosing close to 200ml a day at the normal formula so it would be nice if we can half the dose amount.

You can only saturate a solution so much. If you mix your own according to the video it will be stronger, I guarantee it.

I am in no way endorsing mixing it stronger than that. [emoji6]

 

[helldiver]

What do u adjust your dosage to what parameters

 

[120reefkeeper]

What do u adjust your dosage to what parameters

To start you need to get all your parameters in line.

Let's say for example you want to maintain an Alkalinity of 7.5 dkh. The balancing point for calcium at a 7.5dkh is about 415ppm. You need your magnesium around 1350 to 1400ppm.

Once you have your big three parameters set then you'll need to measure you Alkalinity consumption on a daily basis.

Let's say you measure your Alkalinity at 4pm each day and you see that your Alkalinity goes from 7.5dkh on day 1 and 24 hours later it's 7.2 dkh.

You now know that your using .3dkh per day.

This is what you need to match your component +2 to. So you adjust you dosing of component 2 until you no longer loose dkh or gain dkh.

So let's say you end up dosing 40ml per day to keep your Alkalinity stable. Then you will match your component 1,3 to the same level .... 40ml per day. [emoji4][emoji6]

 

[Joe252]

I cannot find the answer to my problem - I was dosing in separate parts of different concentrations for everything including iodine and strontium , I decided to take a leap of faith and try the equal dosing of the Mag,KH,,Ca2, and reef mineral salt in conjunction with strong a,b,cand k - mixed in this concentration...
Solution .....
mixing for 3 L

• Solution 1
• 150g Calcium Chloride Dihydrate
• 30g Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate
• 15ml Aquaforest Components Strong A
• 15ml Aquaforest Components Strong B
• Solution 2
• 240g Sodium Carbonate
• 15ml Aquaforest Components Strong C
• Solution 3
• 240g Aquaforest Reef Mineral Salt
• 15ml Aquaforest Component K

so long story short , my perrameters have gone from perfect to almost too low KH and Ca2 with Mag at 1530! - its been a steady trend so its going to continue , I was told to allow for levels to stabilize but if it goes any longer im gonna have problems ...
what do I do ?? if im supposed to dose equal right ? so if I crank up all three to bring up CA2 and KH my magnesium will go thru the roof more than it already is , and there is no way to lower the dosing ...

can I just adjust my first solution with less magnesium then increase dosing without increasing magnesium levels ?
again for 3L

• Solution 1
• 150g Calcium Chloride Dihydrate
• 15g Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate <- drop Magnesium Chloride from 30 G in 3L to 15 for now ?
• 15ml Aquaforest Components Strong A
• 15ml Aquaforest Components Strong B

 

[Aquaforest]

If you are using Calcium Chloride Dihydrate it's not efficient as CaCl2 Aquaforest.
Because your balance is not correct if your are using your solutions in equal proportions - not because you are dosing too much magnesium but because you are dosing not enought calcium.

We recommend to use Aquaforest:
Calcium: http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/calcium/

And other thing....

Solution 3:
If you are using 240g Reef Mineral Salts its 3 times more than recommened.
It should be 25g/L so in 3 liters it should be 75g
http://aquaforest.eu/en/product/reef-mineral-salt/


Reef Mineral Salt contains Magnesium - maybe that's why your magnesium is rising.
http://aquaforest.eu/en/how-reef-mineral-salt-works/


Here is video how to prepare Balling Method using Aquaforest products:


Regards,
Aquaforest

 

[spartanman22]

Going to revive an old thread here. I've been using the AF Component Bundle for several years now on a small AIO. It was convenient using the pre-made component bundle since my consumption was pretty modest. Within the last year growth has exploded, and my small AIO is now packed and sucking down solution like crazy! So, time to start being more economical and mixing my own. Quick question, the only difference in the new formula is that you take the magnesium away from Component 1+ and add it to 3+? Same exact amount, or does it change at all? Thanks for taking the time to break this down so well!

 

[Pyrosteve]

How big is your tank and what is you consumption after a year? Just starting myself and curious to see.

Here is the recipe that was posted recently...