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Hi, I have very little experience and quite frankly don't know very much other than the research Ive been performing online the past few weeks. I am starting a FOWLR tank and have just set up the tank and am cycling the water. While that is going on I began to create a fish list. Any advice would be considered and appreciated. The list is as follows, with both my interest in the fish and back up options.

The Star:
-Yellow Long nose Butterfly-I know its a little large but will most likely be my only fish bigger than a few inches, and i have already considered its eating habits ect. that being said and additional first hand info on them would be great.
-had originally thought of fox face but they are similar in color and fox face has the dorsal spines and needs larger room, also thought copper band but heard they are more difficult to get eating and doesn't have fox face color pattern.

2nd String:
-I was thinking one of the smaller tangs, maybe a yellow, bristle tooth or atl blue (really like powder brown but i hear they need ample space and are aggressive) but they are also grow large.
-And/Or maybe a small puffer like a leopard toby or a saddle valentini. I hear puffers produce a large bioload and require treatment for there teeth. Also don't want to harass small fish.

Small but bold:
-I was also considering replacing the tang with dwarf angels maybe a lemon peel and a flame, also like multicolor angel and coral beauty(but heard they are aggressive and harder to take care of). How well would these get along or would it be an issue. I see some need to be single but others are okay if introduced together.
- Also possibly one or 2 pearl eye or galaxy clarkii clowns.
-And the long nose hawkfish i love the shape of this little guy and the peppermint pattern, may think of changing for a white band possum wrasse if there was issue with him.
-I also really like harlequin bass but not sure if they would do well together being similar shape and style.
-Yellow head jawfish-not sure of compatibly or if i have enough substrate

Cleaning
-Last I would like advice on the clean up crew with these selections, I like shrimp but I read it would be an problem with some of the fish I was looking towards. Another question is are the clean up crew different for FOWLR than traditional reed.

Obviously I wouldn't have all these fish, However I wanted to offer options of what I like and get y'all opinion on whats practical to try to create a balance. Also keeping in mind there won't be corals unless it is on the live rock will that be a factor for these choice fish. Any help would be fantastic, as I don't have much experience and am on my own with this...let the issues begin
 
Unless I missed it in your post, we will need the tank size before recommending any fish. Regarding your questions of CUC, there is no difference between one for a FOWLR and a reef......what you have in your crew is dependent upon the types of fish you are keeping and the what you are trying to accomplish with it (certain types of algae for example).
 
Lets see some pics.
 

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I don't have an exact measure in gallons as I got the tank used however, when I filled it with sand, powerhead, ect. it took about 55 gallons of RO water to fill up
 
i have new list royal gramma, yellow longnose butterfly, longnose hawkfish, flame angel, and diamond goby. any thoughts on order i was thinking royal gramma first then idk
 
Welcome to R2R!!! I would stay away from the longnose butterfly until your tank is established for a while. They are very finicky eaters and need a good amount of Copepods to graze on until the
Start accepting prepared foods. There's a few good threads on them if you look around a little. Best of luck!
 
Hello and welcome!

The key to successful butterfly keeping is to keep up pod populations using LIVE phytoplankton- aka copepod filet mignon. Using the LIVE phyto will ensure your pod populations are always healthy and continuously reproducing, thus providing constantly available food to your copperband and other tank inhabitants including all coral and filter feeding inverts. Phyto is also far less expensive than pods and this approach is far more cost effective than constantly buying pods. I suggest once you seed your tank with pods, that you maintain with Live Phyto so that you should only need to boost or diversify your pod population with new pods every 3-5 months. When culturing pods, we typically see hybrid degradation begin to have a serious effect on the F3 generation and since copepods reproduce every 1-1.5 months this time frame introduces new genetics into your ecosystem just in time to avoid a loss of fitness (overall population health) and keep things running smoothly. Following this method is a proven way to establish and maintain enough copepods for you to be able to keep all of the fish your desire without worrying about trying to feed them constantly and spending a fortune doing so. Let me know if you have any more questions!

Lan
 

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