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Hello everyone! Newbie here, I've had freshwater most of my life (guppies, molly's, catfish, tetras, cichlids, oscars, red-bellied pacus, etc.) but haven't had any tanks in the past 10 years. I really miss having fish and am amazed at how far saltwater hobby has come since I looked at it last. Currently on the hunt for a budget tank setup that won't get me in the dog house, but has room for growth. So far it seems like a unicorn.
 
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Hello everyone! Newbie here, I've had freshwater most of my life (guppies, molly's, catfish, tetras, cichlids, oscars, red-bellied pacus, etc.) but haven't had any tanks in the past 10 years. I really miss having fish and am amazed at how far saltwater hobby has come since I looked at it last. Currently on the hunt for a budget tank setup that won't get me in the dog house, but has room for growth. So far it seems like a unicorn.


Reefing on a tight budget is most difficult. If you figure in the startup costs which can be maintained at a minimal level, the running costs must be considered.

Also, you will run into issues trying to reef on a budget. Just figure the initial start up costs. Since you have freshwater tanks, I assume you have most of the hardware needed... Tank, heater, and possibly a canister filter.

You will need new substrate, rocks, and the most expensive component, lights.

Reef lights are high priced items. Your FW lights won't work. Do not fall into the trap of going cheap here. Buy the BEST lights you can. This is an area where it really is a matter of buy it once and be done. Cheap black box lights may work for a while, but you will quickly tire of their lack of controllability and want to upgrade.

Aside from lights, all of your FW hardware will transfer over.

If you decide to run a sump, do some homework on whatever tank you intend to use. Make sure it can be drilled for the drains and returns. Make sure you can fit a sump in your stand. There are Hang on Back overflows that can do the job, but after using one for the last 7 months, I would not recommend them.

If you plan a larger tank, 40g or above, you will probably want to invest in a good RODI water filter. These units can be gotten for a reasonable price on Amazon, but understand that filters need to be replaced as they age. The larger tank you have, the more water you need. More water means faster replacements of filters.

Salt is another running cost. there is an unending debate as to what salt is best. Most of us go with Instant Ocean Reef Crystals. It is the least expensive option for a reef system.

Rocks are something else to consider. Your FW rocks will NOT transfer over. You will need to get new rocks. The price range here is wide depending... Basic dry rock is the least expensive option, but it should, (but not required) be cured for 4-8 weeks before using it in the system.

A more expensive option is the "dry live" rock. This comes from the factory impregnated with all of the cycling bacterial colonies needed to start a tank. It is about 150% higher priced than dry rock. Benefit of this is plug and play. Buy it, place it and you are good to go.

Full "Live Rock" if you live in an area where you can buy it, is the best option but also by far the most expensive. Expect to pay in the range of $20-45 per pound for true ocean live rock, possibly more. It is illegal in California so I don't have a good price for you on that one.


The best advice I can offer to you, is save your money, take your time... You don't HAVE to do this overnight. Buy the best stuff once. Don't fall into the trap of "instant gratification". Getting the cheap stuff may get you started faster, but it will cost you more in the end.

So after all of that... I welcome you to the Dark Side....

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Hello and welcome to r2r ^_^.
Hope all is well and sone really good advice from jedi above.
Hope all goes well and set out a plan of what equipment you need and what livestock you want and what order you add your fishes from least aggressive-most aggressive last etc

Good luck and enjoy
 
Hello everyone! Newbie here, I've had freshwater most of my life (guppies, molly's, catfish, tetras, cichlids, oscars, red-bellied pacus, etc.) but haven't had any tanks in the past 10 years. I really miss having fish and am amazed at how far saltwater hobby has come since I looked at it last. Currently on the hunt for a budget tank setup that won't get me in the dog house, but has room for growth. So far it seems like a unicorn.
Hello @OctoReef12 and welcome to R2R!

I don't think you're looking for a unicorn but you do need to tell us what you are seeking to keep. I feel the fish and some select corals are the reason for larger tanks of 100L or more vs the nano size tanks. If you aren't seeking lots or fish or large (or predatory) fish, then you won't need a larger tank. In fact, you can add to it as you go and some of your freshwater items may even work too.

Could you give me an idea or a picture or two of some tanks you liked and why?

Maybe, we can point you in the right direction?
 
Hello everyone! Newbie here, I've had freshwater most of my life (guppies, molly's, catfish, tetras, cichlids, oscars, red-bellied pacus, etc.) but haven't had any tanks in the past 10 years. I really miss having fish and am amazed at how far saltwater hobby has come since I looked at it last. Currently on the hunt for a budget tank setup that won't get me in the dog house, but has room for growth. So far it seems like a unicorn.
Welcome to R2R. Your in the right place if you ever need help or can’t seem to figure something out. Make a post there are tons of experts here ready to help.
 
Welcome and let the journey begin, and just remember if you’re married and you get fish put them in when she’s not around and when she finally sees them say Hunni he’s been there it was just hiding lol it never worked for me but maybe it will for you lol lol lol
 
Reefing on a tight budget is most difficult. If you figure in the startup costs which can be maintained at a minimal level, the running costs must be considered.

Also, you will run into issues trying to reef on a budget. Just figure the initial start up costs. Since you have freshwater tanks, I assume you have most of the hardware needed... Tank, heater, and possibly a canister filter.

You will need new substrate, rocks, and the most expensive component, lights.

Reef lights are high priced items. Your FW lights won't work. Do not fall into the trap of going cheap here. Buy the BEST lights you can. This is an area where it really is a matter of buy it once and be done. Cheap black box lights may work for a while, but you will quickly tire of their lack of controllability and want to upgrade.

Aside from lights, all of your FW hardware will transfer over.

If you decide to run a sump, do some homework on whatever tank you intend to use. Make sure it can be drilled for the drains and returns. Make sure you can fit a sump in your stand. There are Hang on Back overflows that can do the job, but after using one for the last 7 months, I would not recommend them.

If you plan a larger tank, 40g or above, you will probably want to invest in a good RODI water filter. These units can be gotten for a reasonable price on Amazon, but understand that filters need to be replaced as they age. The larger tank you have, the more water you need. More water means faster replacements of filters.

Salt is another running cost. there is an unending debate as to what salt is best. Most of us go with Instant Ocean Reef Crystals. It is the least expensive option for a reef system.

Rocks are something else to consider. Your FW rocks will NOT transfer over. You will need to get new rocks. The price range here is wide depending... Basic dry rock is the least expensive option, but it should, (but not required) be cured for 4-8 weeks before using it in the system.

A more expensive option is the "dry live" rock. This comes from the factory impregnated with all of the cycling bacterial colonies needed to start a tank. It is about 150% higher priced than dry rock. Benefit of this is plug and play. Buy it, place it and you are good to go.

Full "Live Rock" if you live in an area where you can buy it, is the best option but also by far the most expensive. Expect to pay in the range of $20-45 per pound for true ocean live rock, possibly more. It is illegal in California so I don't have a good price for you on that one.


The best advice I can offer to you, is save your money, take your time... You don't HAVE to do this overnight. Buy the best stuff once. Don't fall into the trap of "instant gratification". Getting the cheap stuff may get you started faster, but it will cost you more in the end.

So after all of that... I welcome you to the Dark Side....

Welcome.jpg
Lots of great info and advice, thank you!

Unfortunately I don't have any gear anymore. Last time I had a tank was 10 years ago and my 50 FW tank was converted to a reptile habitat. Several moves since then and we got tired of moving tanks. I am taking my time I really don't think I'll have a tank for at least 6 months as I know there is a bit of up front cost and I consider myself in the planning phase to do thinks right once. If I do find a unicorn sooner that will be the only way I beat this timetable.
 
Welcome to R2R! Jedi gave you some great advice above to follow already. The only thing I'll really say is I attempted a budget tank and bought a 13.5 gallon Fluval EVO only to quickly discover I wanted to upgrade the equipment which ended up costing me $600 over time. Just buy the biggest tank you can whether you think you want a tank that big or not because you eventually will. Plan your tank and equipment based on the type of inhabitants you plan to keep in it so plan slowly and buy the best equipment you can even if it means saving for a while to do it. Check Marketplace and Craigslist for deals on used tanks, you'd be surprised what folks will sell equipment they barely used or never used for. Good luck and you've come to the right place to guide you through the process.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

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  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

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