New thought on gram negative treatment

[Lifelongaquaria]

No offense taken at all. Nowhere did I say or imply a gram stain would help anyone identify a bacteria. I was definitely under the impression however from everything I have read so far that the cell wall biofilm issue with gram negative bacteria was the very mechanic which makes them very difficult to treat and resistant to antibiotics and as I have contracted fish tank granuloma by not taking proper precautions was thinking bacteria that are more often resistant to known medications are something I take more seriously now a days. I will certainly do more research on the relationship between the gram negative bacteria and susceptibility to antibiotics in general as it seems to I might be misunderstanding something in a couple peoples opinions. However I will post this excerpt from wiki:Gram-negative bacteria are found everywhere, in virtually all environments on Earth that support life. The gram-negative bacteria include the model organism Escherichia coli, as well as many pathogenic bacteria, such as Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Neisseria gonorrhoeae, Chlamydia trachomatis, and Yersinia pestis. They are an important medical challenge, as their outer membrane protects them from many antibiotics(including penicillin); detergents that would normally damage the peptidoglycans of the (inner) cell membrane; and lysozyme, an antimicrobial enzyme produced by animals that forms part of the innate immune system

 

[Gareth elliott]

Had bookmarked this when i was ordering nematodes for small hive beetles and this was in the search results. Tangent but mostly on topic [emoji23].

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180406130112.htm

 

[Matta Simaan]

i dont know if we can guess the fish bacterial type of infection according to the signs or location; and according to the fact that so many of us will not know which type of bacterial infection our fish have (except if you are a microbiology geek and do a serial of tests for bacterial identification and SUSCEPTIBILITY) i recommend to use empirically the widest spectrum antibiotic that you have in hand covering both GRAM + AND GRAM - and the duration as far recommended but not shorter;

maybe i am wrong; i am not a veterinarian; and not a specialist in fish disease; but in that way you we will prevent in some way development of resistant strains and also give the fish the best chance for out-coming the infection..

 

[Lifelongaquaria]

i dont know if we can guess the fish bacterial type of infection according to the signs or location; and according to the fact that so many of us will not know which type of bacterial infection our fish have (except if you are a microbiology geek and do a serial of tests for bacterial identification and SUSCEPTIBILITY) i recommend to use empirically the widest spectrum antibiotic that you have in hand covering both GRAM + AND GRAM - and the duration as far recommended but not shorter;

maybe i am wrong; i am not a veterinarian; and not a specialist in fish disease; but in that way you we will prevent in some way development of resistant strains and also give the fish the best chance for out-coming the infection..

I very much agree. Not that I wouldn't like to identify every bacteria I come across just don't have the equipment or time