No ones been able to help with these dinos. Please Help.

[ReefGuy1234]

This is my 3rd time having dinos and I'm just lost on what to do for it. I've posted a few different treads and nothing has helped me. Also, I don't have access to a microscope so I can't identify them. This is what I have done for them
-Blackout for 14 days
-hydrogen peroxide
-Extremely high nutrients
-copepods
-bacteria
-lots of manual removing
And I tried most of this as a plan for example a blackout with the hydrogen peroxide. The only things I haven't tried are chemicals and using a refugium/ algae reactor to out-compete them. I love being in this hobby but my tank is awful to look at. These are my levels and is there anything else I can do also I'm very young so I don't have any money so is there any kind of "cheap" or natural way I can beat them.
pH 8.3
Ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5
alk 12
calcium 430
phosphate 0.1
Salinity 1.025
Thanks for any help!

 

[MnFish1]

IMHO - stop treating Dino's with chemicals. treat them with outcompeting 'stuff'. Coral, - For example get some cheap leather coral - thats big - get some GSP. there is no magic chemical formula here - ImHO - just outcompete them. No additions no dosing just cover them up with living tissue

 

[ReefGuy1234]

IMHO - stop treating Dino's with chemicals. treat them with outcompeting 'stuff'. Coral, - For example get some cheap leather coral - thats big - get some GSP. there is no magic chemical formula here - ImHO - just outcompete them. No additions no dosing just cover them up with living tissue

I have a few corals in there no but I tried doing something similar with algae. I let my tank get soooo disgusting and it had algae everywhere and that didn't work but do you think that I could outcompete it with a refugium?

 

[brandon429]

not tried, and has been working well lately, the rip clean

how many gallons is this tank I have a few proof threads for each size tank we can roll out ahead of time.

all the actions you took above, ideal after a rip clean vs before. they're good preventatives, not good at removing. cleaning your tank surgically/rip cleaning is the ultimate in export, and it comes with example threads plenty, see outcomes before you begin.

 

[a.t.t.r]

This is my 3rd time having dinos and I'm just lost on what to do for it. I've posted a few different treads and nothing has helped me. Also, I don't have access to a microscope so I can't identify them. This is what I have done for them
-Blackout for 14 days
-hydrogen peroxide
-Extremely high nutrients
-copepods
-bacteria
-lots of manual removing
And I tried most of this as a plan for example a blackout with the hydrogen peroxide. The only things I haven't tried are chemicals and using a refugium/ algae reactor to out-compete them. I love being in this hobby but my tank is awful to look at. These are my levels and is there anything else I can do also I'm very young so I don't have any money so is there any kind of "cheap" or natural way I can beat them.
pH 8.3
Ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5
alk 12
calcium 430
phosphate 0.1
Salinity 1.025
Thanks for any help!

Get some Live Phyto from algae barn and start dosing it. I started doing it 3 weeks ago it seemed to help within a few days.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This is my 3rd time having dinos and I'm just lost on what to do for it. I've posted a few different treads and nothing has helped me. Also, I don't have access to a microscope so I can't identify them. This is what I have done for them
-Blackout for 14 days
-hydrogen peroxide
-Extremely high nutrients
-copepods
-bacteria
-lots of manual removing
And I tried most of this as a plan for example a blackout with the hydrogen peroxide. The only things I haven't tried are chemicals and using a refugium/ algae reactor to out-compete them. I love being in this hobby but my tank is awful to look at. These are my levels and is there anything else I can do also I'm very young so I don't have any money so is there any kind of "cheap" or natural way I can beat them.
pH 8.3
Ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5
alk 12
calcium 430
phosphate 0.1
Salinity 1.025
Thanks for any help!

Agree with MNfish- Chemicals are in essence feeding the dino. Flagellates are photosynthetic and love any kind of light. You must clean filters and skimmer cup daily and and blow loose- Any visible dino daily.
If your tank is at or near a window, you are countering blackout.
Try this below in which I have received a couple hundred thank you's
Although youve done a bit of it - repeat and No chemicals.

Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15%) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off.
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

 

[ggNoRe]

Google Elegant Corals Dinoflagellates Regimen. This plus a UV were the only thing to stop dinos in my tank after a 2 month battle.

 

[Baker91]

Jason Mack’s Dino group on Facebook. Don’t do anything until you check this out. It works. You can try everything else that anyone will suggest but if you just go there and follow the regimen they will disappear he is a master at it. You need to identify what type of Dino. Some will go away with a uv some you need to dose phyto and sodium silicate to induce a diatom bloom and choke them out.

 

[Cory]

Time to get out the big guns and buy a uv sterilizer. Its the only thing that worked for me.

 

[brandon429]

if this tank is max 50 gallons we got lucky, those can be fixed in a focused run for sure.
much more than 50 gallons and the excuse to leave the dinos in the tank wins due to degree of work, but heck I have a brute that will hold fifty gallons of water from extraction, we rip the system clean, put the same water back, low effort surgery we'll even use the old blood which I recommend we do not, but can, and will.


I would certainly install oversized uv, even a cheaper model that isn't meant for long term installed in a very low mass condition/after a rip clean/is such a powerful arrangement of mass + the zapper of the mass.

there's UV vs 1000000 cells

and uV vs fifteen cells, figuratively speaking

 

[HM3105]

What's worked for me the last couple of times I've had these was 1) increasing nutrients, 2) increasing temp to 82 (see Reef Builders article) and 3) adding a UV sterilizer. I usually do all 3 together and after a week or so they've been outcompeted.