Not sure if this hobby is for me.

Get an inexpensive microscope to verify Dino’s or diatoms. I once fought diatoms for 2 months only to find out they were Amphidinium dinoflagellates after purchasing a used school biology microscope for $12.00. The microscope has come in handy many times. There will always be something, algae, vermetid snails, diatoms, unhealthy livestock but iron sharpens iron and as you get sharper in the hobby you will sharpen others. I wish you great success.
 
Do you test water regularly ?
Are you using RODI or tap water from faucet ?
Is your tank at or near a window
Do you have clean up crew (snails, etc) ?
What is your filtration ?
Water test regularly. Using RODI. Near a window but it's not getting any direct sunlight. Have a fairly large clean up crew. Filtration is just filter floss and carbon.
 
I think I can say almost all of us have been there. We may have tried to forget those early days, but we feel for you.

Time and knowledge are a good thing in this hobby. We are constantly learning new ways of doing things and trying new ways too. Keep reaching out, we are here for you.
 
Get an inexpensive microscope to verify Dino’s or diatoms. I once fought diatoms for 2 months only to find out they were Amphidinium dinoflagellates after purchasing a used school biology microscope for $12.00. The microscope has come in handy many times. There will always be something, algae, vermetid snails, diatoms, unhealthy livestock but iron sharpens iron and as you get sharper in the hobby you will sharpen others. I wish you great success.
Thanks! I'm going to look around and find a microscope. One of the toughest things is just figuring out what you're dealing with.
 
Get an inexpensive microscope to verify Dino’s or diatoms. I once fought diatoms for 2 months only to find out they were Amphidinium dinoflagellates after purchasing a used school biology microscope for $12.00. The microscope has come in handy many times. There will always be something, algae, vermetid snails, diatoms, unhealthy livestock but iron sharpens iron and as you get sharper in the hobby you will sharpen others. I wish you great success.
Would one of those kids microscopes work? I'm finding a ton for sale on marketplace.
 
Hey man, I just started my tank this spring as well and i feel you. It is frustrating and a mess and it seems like every bad algae or bacteria or high nutrients issue that can happen has. I've been battling Cyano for almost 2 months with no end in sight, so I understand the struggle, but for me what keeps me going are the good days, and how amazing it is when it all is good, even if that's rare. And the knowledge that overtime things will be better and I will know more and the tank will be what I dream of someday.
 
Hey man, I just started my tank this spring as well and i feel you. It is frustrating and a mess and it seems like every bad algae or bacteria or high nutrients issue that can happen has. I've been battling Cyano for almost 2 months with no end in sight, so I understand the struggle, but for me what keeps me going are the good days, and how amazing it is when it all is good, even if that's rare. And the knowledge that overtime things will be better and I will know more and the tank will be what I dream of someday.
Yeah its tough. Especially when you see the same set up on here running around the same time looking great lol. Good luck!
 
Check this 32 out

look at what we did at every step to address the challenges


in my opinion if you redo your current tank as this one then outcomes streamline


notice how at every step we did opposite of what the masses would do

when we start reefs on white rock vs coralline live rock, special steps are needed

dinos was prevented in his tank within the first ten days, we did not own or respond to a phosphate or nitrate test. Responding to them, those two params, is common though and so are dinos challenges. We considered what the masses would do, then did opposite. Daniel had done 4 full water changes before we had to get mean

predictably it’s a safe bet this tank has never had anywhere near one full change. We handle feeding, water changes, external rock gardening and testing for params very unusually. The entire trajectory is on file above.

that reef isn’t going to have phosguard or any other phosphate media on it, so no dinos. Daniels system is too hands on to get dinos. We discussed it on page one long before any other details: don’t test for nitrate, or phosphate and dont own phosphate or nitrate adsorbing media in a new white rock reef, and agree to clean it. then after that’s aligned, we can feed it so much all your corals will grow even though there’s no maturity or coralline. On file above

we could not CPR cheat a 200 gallon reef this way. But we did do this way on a nano due to easy access


you are too hands off for the system friendly offer. Time to get in elbow deep, until you earn coralline, then it gets easier

Nobody here would have advised any aspect of what we did there, we used uncommon rules
Sorry I'm having hard time understanding you brandon. I appreciate the effort, where is Tejas btw, sounds tropical! Can you help me understand these quotes?

"dinos was prevented within the first ten days" We've prevented them from happening in the future?

"when we start reefs on white rock" Do you mean with live rock or keeping things off of live rock?

"corals will grow even though there’s no maturity or coralline." So we need maturity and coralline to grow corals if the conditions you talked about are not met?

"predictably it’s a safe bet this tank has never had anywhere near one full change." What do you mean?
"CPR cheat a reef this way" What is CPR cheat?

If anyone else who knows more about this and wants to chime in please help me out.
 
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Hey. I'm just frustrated. My tank hasnt really been nice to look at since I started it in May. It's a 32 gallon Biocube. I had the typical diatoms bloom, algae bloom, gha. All the uglies. Corals are struggling. They will look good some days and other days they seem unhappy. Now I'm dealing with what seems like dinos. I understand this is a hobby of patience but all I seem to be doing is throwing money down the drain. Sorry for being negative. Just needed to vent.
I think if things get tough, just have the fish. Then later maybe try a corl or two later.
It's okay!!!!!
Take your time. No rush.
 
Keep at it, I'm on the same boat and just starting to see some progress. Do a list of all issues you have, ask questions, research, and get a plan together to tackle them. I considered starting over but like you mentioned earlier what happens if you experience them again. Sure you learned somethings since you started but understanding and experience them will help you better prepare for when they occur in the future, at least that's my thought process. I created a thread (Please HELP! | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum) with a list of my issues and went off to research and get a plan together. Here is a partial picture of my tank at it's worst taken 10/27 and another 12/05. It's somewhat better or at least I like to think so. (Dino, Aiptasia, GHA, Bryopsis, Bubble Algae, Hydroids, any other pest) you name it probably is in my tank.

Tank is a little over a year.
Low, slow and steady!
 

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Its not always easy. the more you put in the more you have to take out. Just saying,
For sure. I get that. I feel like I don't feed super heavy and I don't have a huge bio load.
 
Water test regularly. Using RODI. Near a window but it's not getting any direct sunlight. Have a fairly large clean up crew. Filtration is just filter floss and carbon.
The issues i see are lack of filtration. You have whats needed to entrap micron particles but nothing in form of chemical and mechanical filtration to acctually break down waste. Near a window is the cause of your algae and other uglies as even with the drapes/blinds closed, you will still get UV's that will penetrate them and have that very effect on the tank.
You can take the side that faces the window and cover it with black construction paper from Wmart that is in school section and is 30" X 30" and only 92 cents.
Clean up crew helps but cannot manage the bioloads and breakdown of waste that a filter does.
Assuming you do not have an ocerflow, you can utilize a hang on back power filter and drop a small pouch of chemipure elite in it to give you filtration, waste removal, added oxygen and water movement. Walmart may have that too and just under $20
 
For sure. I get that. I feel like I don't feed super heavy and I don't have a huge bio load.
Fish waste, inorganics, bacteria, and low water movement will create such load(s).
 
Keep at it, I'm on the same boat and just starting to see some progress. Do a list of all issues you have, ask questions, research, and get a plan together to tackle them. I considered starting over but like you mentioned earlier what happens if you experience them again. Sure you learned somethings since you started but understanding and experience them will help you better prepare for when they occur in the future, at least that's my thought process. I created a thread (Please HELP! | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum) with a list of my issues and went off to research and get a plan together. Here is a partial picture of my tank at it's worst taken 10/27 and another 12/05. It's somewhat better or at least I like to think so. (Dino, Aiptasia, GHA, Bryopsis, Bubble Algae, Hydroids, any other pest) you name it probably is in my tank.

Tank is a little over a year.
Low, slow and steady!
Wow. Definitely looking better. I'm going to get to digging and trying to get my tank looking as good as I can while staying within a budget. I guess thats part of this hobby, figuring out what works for each tank.
 
The issues i see are lack of filtration. You have whats needed to entrap micron particles but nothing in form of chemical and mechanical filtration to acctually break down waste. Near a window is the cause of your algae and other uglies as even with the drapes/blinds closed, you will still get UV's that will penetrate them and have that very effect on the tank.
You can take the side that faces the window and cover it with black construction paper from Wmart that is in school section and is 30" X 30" and only 92 cents.
Clean up crew helps but cannot manage the bioloads and breakdown of waste that a filter does.
Assuming you do not have an ocerflow, you can utilize a hang on back power filter and drop a small pouch of chemipure elite in it to give you filtration, waste removal, added oxygen and water movement. Walmart may have that too and just under $20
I really don't think the window is the source of my algae. I mean i don't even have an algae issue currently. If this was the case any person with windows in the same room as their tank would never get rid of algae. I have an aio so there is room in the back for chemipure etc... but i mean my nitrates and phosphates are in check at this point. It also has a hood with the light attached so having a hang on the back filter isn't really an option right now. I appreciate the advice though!
 
Fish waste, inorganics, bacteria, and low water movement will create such load(s)
I understand what creates the bio load. I Just mean for my tank I don't have a very big bio load but I will definitely keep that in mind. I have decent flow but wouldn't mind adding one more powerhead. Once I get a new light and take the hood off and stock lighting I plan on adding a skimmer. Just hard to find one that fits in the biocube.
 
I understand what creates the bio load. I Just mean for my tank I don't have a very big bio load but I will definitely keep that in mind. I have decent flow but wouldn't mind adding one more powerhead. Once I get a new light and take the hood off and stock lighting I plan on adding a skimmer. Just hard to find one that fits in the biocube.
Recommended biocube skimmer:

Icecap K-1 or K2-50. Looks and works like a full sized skimmer but miniature. I own K2-50
 

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