Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread

[saltyfins]

I am fighting this in the sand bed. it's a year old, and this stuff was brown...now it's GREEN,

Real reefs get those growths it doesn’t mean anything is bad with your water, that algae may enjoy the bright lighting we supply and lack of matched grazers to control it, among the hundreds of options for ridding algae online ours is a method of direct access cleaning

what about siphoning up the sandbed growths, replace back with rinsed sand taken during the cleaning. the rocks can be lifted out and applied with peroxide externally that will kill off algae, both are physical cleaning actions

reef rx is fluconazole I think. That's been known to cause cyano issues in the fluconazole work threads, that appears to be the case here as well.

that's what I am thinking about doing. the colored stuff though, was brown. ? it's in a mat type way, not loose. idk I just was thinking I'd try your method, and see...but if you dont think I should I wont. the rocks I will, but I'm worried about my corals on them. I had a good CUC but I also have a Valentini puffer... ;Shy

 

[brandon429]

Our method here is solely taking apart the tank and rip cleaning it like this big job, same size tank. It’s a deep clean, the corals stay on the rocks and the rocks are lifted out for detailing on the counter

I do think this will help much better than dosing any meds it’s just hard work and most won’t do that part:

120 gallon rip clean

I’ve decided to perform a rip clean on my 120 with 100% new water. The tank has been running for 5 years and was battling Dino for several months. I used the bacteria method from elegant corals and worked great I haven’t seen Dino in months now. But I tried several other methods including...

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your lighting levels need reduced that will help a little

Jilly used rip cleaning to effect a complete tank swap here. no bottle bac

HURRY

Might be a dumb question but, how do you rinse sand without killing beneficial bacteria? Swapping aquariums and wanted to use my sand from previous tank. Putting it together now. I saved a 5 gallon bucket of the aquarium water and have the sand in the bottom of the tank outside with about 2...

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tap rinsing of sand.

 

[saltyfins]

Our method here is solely taking apart the tank and rip cleaning it like this big job, same size tank. It’s a deep clean, the corals stay on the rocks and the rocks are lifted out for detailing on the counter

I do think this will help much better than dosing any meds it’s just hard work and most won’t do that part:

120 gallon rip clean

I’ve decided to perform a rip clean on my 120 with 100% new water. The tank has been running for 5 years and was battling Dino for several months. I used the bacteria method from elegant corals and worked great I haven’t seen Dino in months now. But I tried several other methods including...

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your lighting levels need reduced that will help a little

thank you. I will also try that, I have 75% blues and probably 25% whites going. I have a new controller (Kessil) but it's not hooked up yet. fried my last one as it got wet. How long should I run them do you think? I've been slowly turning them on at 7am, and ramping the blues a bit at a time, (stay at home foster mom) and running whites for only 4 hours...then off at 6pm.

 

[Aclman88]

I have not rinsed or stirred my sand in the 6 months my tank has been set up. Wondering if it is fine to stir a little during the next water change? It has clouded from time to time since I have a tiger pistol that excavates all over each night and I never thoroughly rinsed the new sand before adding.

 

[brandon429]

It probably is fine, just a small section at a time and then observe. There are some tanks it could harm but they’re rare

You may see some increased hair algae or cyano but even lights slightly too bright might do that, always a balance.

 

[brandon429]

bunmp





because apparently the rage nowadays is adding a handful of old sand to new and taking a huge risk on killing the new reef tank, don’t do that. And because we can now edit titles that’s slick.

in two recent posts animals were not lost before sand was added to the new tank from the old, it happened right then within an hour, it’s not worth the risk. Notice how we r approaching fifty pages with no tanks recycled, saving six pods isnt worth it. Look how tough pods are: they come back down from the rocks over and over, to reseed the rip cleaned new sand.

Pods = new tank cycled?

I just set up a new Reefer and at almost the same time, a friend also set up a smaller Red Sea. He is only a week into his cycle with no readings of ammonia, nitrites or nitrates but last night, noticed an explosion of pods in his tank. I went and saw it myself and they are everywhere on the...

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of all the hundreds of tank moves we’ve done here, all of them were nicer to pods than that post, and thousands still survived to reseed the new setup.

 

[Aqua Man]

Hey Brandon!

What would you do with yourself if everyone went Bare bottom!!?? Lol

Great read! Keep up the good fight!

 

[brandon429]

projected utility lifespan of this thread is 22 and one half yrs heh hope your reef is working smoothly!

 

[brandon429]

Read post 203

" MY WHITE SAND METHOD "

it’s possible for old school setups to sit in place but here’s what he left out if his rocks slide down and create a storm his whole tank dies if a powerhead dislodges his whole tank dies during a power outage a fully eutrophic sandbed / unexported is taking o2 at many times over what a...

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our thread exists for fifty pages solely to prevent that doom in others reefs.


here’s new sand, current thread at reefcentral

total mess since they did not pre rinse *new sand*

New tank won't clear - Reef Central Online Community

New tank won't clear Reef Discussion

reefcentral.com

****how is it working out for reefcentral folks to be blocked from reading sandbed rinse work at reef2reef

Moving - Transferring 6 year old tank - Help!

Update: LONG READ! Bit of a setback - so I thought (before there was a leak I needed to fix) the tank would be ready to go on Saturday after it was installed to add the live rock piece and the ceramic block. So I brought them both in a bucket with saltwater to the new house. I took the hour...

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that’s a recent tank move job start to finish of a large system. Much detail is inside. A pre rinse of new sand, in tap water and then a skip cycle assembly in the new home.

 

[brandon429]

Upgrade disaster

This thread is being used constantly in tank move planning https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/hurry.813208/ it’s so important for tank relocation jobs to read this thread first. Just about daily we complete a new tank blend or move using 100% tap rinses. I noticed our reef board still lacks a...

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our work is easily written off and discounted there.
I keep asking them to make a counter work link, where for pages they do not rinse moved and combined tanks, see how nobody will take that bait

it’s safe to critique with nobody’s tanks on the line. Every poster there thinks rinsing sand is dumb, counterproductive and unneeded. We merely lucked into fifty pages of no loss, that should be easy to repeat for the no rinse crowd. Ok go

Ill still be asking for them to make a work thread when 2023 hits.

 

[brandon429]

Build Thread - Cook's 105 Planet Aquariums Crystaline Reef - 48x20

I've had my tank going for two years next month. I'm moving this build over from another forum, so the time stamps aren't going to reflect the original's. I will try to document the original dates as I go. It's also an opportunity to edit my build, there was so much at the beginning I didn't...

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Cook's run there had so much time and effort on the line, absolute takedown surgery of a large tank, we just have to make it first read here for a couple years. moved to post #1 thread #1.

the number of reef forum readers willing to do this is .0003% I even slightly hinted he should delay/not do it yet to give the out because tank=large rocks=many many pounds

out not taken heh. the reef was simply commanded into shape R Lee Ermey style w all verbal motivation intact/fwd tilt cap mode.

 

[brandon429]

Removed example, edit.

 

[40g Nano]

Well I did this wrong...

luckily I only have a clown and wrasse in it!

 

[brandon429]

How did u work the tank

 

[40g Nano]

How did u work the tank

Just put all the sand and rock in, waited an hour or two for it to clear up, put the fish in

 

[brandon429]

It's OK to do that, most do.

Page one post one has fifteen threads where that went bad as an example. Glad that didn't happen after taking the chance

 

[brandon429]

I just read about your enduring algae problems

You didn't move old sand into the new tank right? That was unrinsed new sand you used right

 

[40g Nano]

I just read about your enduring algae problems

You didn't move old sand into the new tank right? That was unrinsed new sand you used right

This was a move from my 40B to a 90 gallon. No algae problems here!

the sand was a mixture of old sand, Carib sea live sand, and dry sand

 

[brandon429]

everything is brown...

It gets harder the more gallons but the biology scales the same in any tank. a mere ten years ago and 100% would have claimed the process harmful. It’s ok to run on old or new reefs because in the end all we do is strip out waste mud from the system while the filter bacteria remain locked in...

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**8 month nano reef post rip clean update coming up team and I don't know how they'll respond

will the tank be in line with our patterns here?

anything on file that would cause an outlier effect and the tank to be in bad condition? the rip clean has either fared well or it hasn't after eight months, let's see. Curious as to the degree of touch up work required/ we now know how to reset tanks back under control so I'm watching to see if continued gardening was kept in place.

 

[DaveC]

Another no cycle transfer for the books

I upgraded from a 40 breeder to a 150 this past week. I was lucky they were in different parts of the same room.

Basically I built up the 150 over a few days.
Filling took a few days since I was using a 75 gallon per day RODI
I put a heater in there as soon as I had a few inches of water then added another when it was about 1/2 full
As soon as the temp stabilized with the pump & powerheads on, I added IO salt over a few hours to sneak up on the correct salinity.

Once I got the salinity dialed in I added about 30 lbs of rock that I had cooking in the 40 breeder sump in the basement. All of the rock had been in the system since the Eagles win the Super Ball. I basically just swirled the rock in the water to knock off the loose debris. There wasn't really much there so that went pretty quick.

The next morning I added a Chromis as the canary and a few corals. I let him swim over night and everything seemed fine in the morning.

That night after adding the Chromis, I transferred the rest of the rock and corals that was in the 40. Again, I basically just swirled the rock in the water to knock off the debris and placed them in the new tank.

NOTE: If you have bristle worms, you're probably going to want to wear gloves ... ask me how I know.

Now that I had no rocks in the 40, I caught the rest of the fish & acclimated them for about 45 minutes just like you would from a LFS.

Now two days later everything seems good, fish are a little confused but I'm sure they will get used to their new surroundings.

Fish - Chromis, small hippo, pajama cardinal, blenny, 2 clowns. very very light bioload for the new tank.

No sand was transferred and I'm not sure if I'm going to add sand later or not. If I do add sand it will be 'snow globe' clean before I add it. Time will tell what I do.

Rockwork still needs to be done, but that will have to wait until I finish the floor on the other side of the room. I'll post updates on my build thread. Lights are at 40% reduction using Kessils acclimation schedule. They'll ramp up over 2 weeks. I added a cup of TM biopellets this am.