On the verge of quitting

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Ugh, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. But I think I’m on the verge of quitting. Algae is my biggest problem. All my water parameters are within range. This weekend, I just didn’t do one because it won’t surprise me any if they are within range. But it seems like I’m always cleaning my tank from algae. I do weekly water changes. 10% to 15%. Have my lights on a 12 hour schedule. Starting at 8 am with one hour of blues and increase to about whites to about 60% with the intensity starting at 5% and it increases to about 80% and ramps back down from there within the 12 hour schedule. I’ve just noticed that again I’m having aiptasia in the tank, ugh. That’s the last thing I wanted to see in there. Last time it happened was 8 months ago. It seems like every 8 months I have this breakout of aiptasia. I just got some peppermint shrimp and hope it’s peppermint shrimp and not some other shrimp. My coral ain’t growing but they are just there. I just purchased the T5 lights to increase there growth. I got the Blue plus and the Purple ones. I don’t think my kessil lights was doing enough justice for growth but just enough to keep them there. I’m about to throw the towel in and just put the tank at rest. As much as I hate to. I’m just tired of this algae and aiptasia every 8 months and do a restart. If anybody can convince me to keep reefing. Maybe I’ll stay and fight the battle.
 
Firstly. . . reduce white light intensity and increase blue (75% blue and 28% white)
Also are you using tap water from sink OR RO water ?
Lastly- By chance, is your tank at or near a window ??
 
Ugh, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. But I think I’m on the verge of quitting. Algae is my biggest problem. All my water parameters are within range. This weekend, I just didn’t do one because it won’t surprise me any if they are within range. But it seems like I’m always cleaning my tank from algae. I do weekly water changes. 10% to 15%. Have my lights on a 12 hour schedule. Starting at 8 am with one hour of blues and increase to about whites to about 60% with the intensity starting at 5% and it increases to about 80% and ramps back down from there within the 12 hour schedule. I’ve just noticed that again I’m having aiptasia in the tank, ugh. That’s the last thing I wanted to see in there. Last time it happened was 8 months ago. It seems like every 8 months I have this breakout of aiptasia. I just got some peppermint shrimp and hope it’s peppermint shrimp and not some other shrimp. My coral ain’t growing but they are just there. I just purchased the T5 lights to increase there growth. I got the Blue plus and the Purple ones. I don’t think my kessil lights was doing enough justice for growth but just enough to keep them there. I’m about to throw the towel in and just put the tank at rest. As much as I hate to. I’m just tired of this algae and aiptasia every 8 months and do a restart. If anybody can convince me to keep reefing. Maybe I’ll stay and fight the battle.

Sorry to hear that you're going through this.

In order to convince you otherwise, I would need to know a lot more about your system.

How old is your tank?

big of a tank do you have?

Did you start out with dry Rock?

What is your source water?

As much as it's a pain to tell us, I need your water parameters.

What lights are you using over your tank?

Do you run a skimmer?

12 hours is a long duration for photoperiod. On all my reef tanks at maximum 8 hours total photoperiod.

With a little bit of information from you, we could get to the bottom of your problems and definitely help you.
 
I’m using RO water. It’s a 30 gallon JBJ nanotank. I didn’t test parameters this time but I always do. Every time I test it’s always normal. I don’t see anything out of the ordinary or nutrients out of whack. I have green algae on the rocks which I find normal. But it starts to grow into green hair algae. The sands starts to grow on it too. Every month or 2, I have to just scoop up the algae and throw the sand away. It’s like it clumps all together. But it’s green. My snails seems to be uninterested and my black urchin seems to be confused. My tank is a year and six months. 8 months into it I had to reset or restart due to a horrible aiptasia outbreak. That time I used rock that was already cycled. This time I used dry rock and it’s been a battle. And my coral, it doesn’t grow. It’s just there. I use Red Sea coral pro salt and always mix it to 1.024 to 1.027. I let it even out in the tank with my ATO. I have the tank at about 76 to 78 degrees.
 
I’m using RO water. It’s a 30 gallon JBJ nanotank. I didn’t test parameters this time but I always do. Every time I test it’s always normal. I don’t see anything out of the ordinary or nutrients out of whack. I have green algae on the rocks which I find normal. But it starts to grow into green hair algae. The sands starts to grow on it too. Every month or 2, I have to just scoop up the algae and throw the sand away. It’s like it clumps all together. But it’s green. My snails seems to be uninterested and my black urchin seems to be confused. My tank is a year and six months. 8 months into it I had to reset or restart due to a horrible aiptasia outbreak. That time I used rock that was already cycled. This time I used dry rock and it’s been a battle. And my coral, it doesn’t grow. It’s just there. I use Red Sea coral pro salt and always mix it to 1.024 to 1.027. I let it even out in the tank with my ATO. I have the tank at about 76 to 78 degrees.

Lighting is not necessarily the sole reason.

However do drop your reds and greens and whites way low to like 30% keep your blues up way higher.

What corals do you have stocked? As funny as it sounds without something fighting the Algae for Nutrients, it's going to keep coming back no matter what you do. If there's NOTHING growing in the tank, and it 's healthy, Algae will find a way to grow, I think it would be impossible to completely remove all Algae spores from a reef tank. Are you dosing any Cal and Mag for your corals? they need that to grow as well, and once they grow they will then use up other nutrients, it's kind of like if you don't have protein and carbs but just protein or just carbs you can't work like that.

If you have great bio-diversity , and you're dosing Cal and Mag, you still have options, you can try exchanging and switching up your CUC. Do you have any hermits? my Hermits love GHA. Emerald Crabs are also good Algae eaters.

Try Scarlet, or Blue Legs.

Otherwise you could do a weekend long project, of seperating everything out, really scrubbing it down outside the tank, doing 50% water change of tank water, after stirring up the detritus in the sand and letting it run through the filter floss and other filter media for a little bit.

i.e. Take all the rock and corals out into a Plastic Bin or something like this you can buy at home depot or something for cheap. with about 10G of water.

If you can't easily remove the coral from the rock, then leave it on, but scrub all the rock with a tooth brush in that water and get all the algae off in the bucket. Rinse the rocks off in the bucket of water by swishing them around.

Then go to the tank and try to syphon out as much Algae as you can out, You can use a little tip electric taped at the end to agitate the sand. Or just vaccuum it up into the tube, and use the pinching method to stop the siphon let all the sand fall down, while the detritus stays floating, and then un-pinch and let the detritus flow out.

That coupled with doing some other things like the above will probably help you get it completely beaten within a month or so.

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If you don't want to do that long project, by addressing a few points above, (If you haven't already done all of them) then you can should try it and hopefully see improvements and then hopefully termination in a few months.

Bio Diversity handled this in one of my tanks. I didn't have to do anything else but just add more bio-diversity and Hermits.

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Also what's your feeding schedule like? In Nano's and tanks 50G and under, I've found EVERY OTHER DAY FEEDING is like a god send.

Lastly, as a final effort.

You can try non-natural methods like Vibrant coupled with a UV sterilzer half way through the week. I'm almost positive that will handle it.

(i.e. Dose Vibrant, let it do it's thing for 3-4 days, then UV Sterlizer until next dose at 7 days)
 
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I’m using RO water. It’s a 30 gallon JBJ nanotank. I didn’t test parameters this time but I always do. Every time I test it’s always normal. I don’t see anything out of the ordinary or nutrients out of whack. I have green algae on the rocks which I find normal. But it starts to grow into green hair algae. The sands starts to grow on it too. Every month or 2, I have to just scoop up the algae and throw the sand away. It’s like it clumps all together. But it’s green. My snails seems to be uninterested and my black urchin seems to be confused. My tank is a year and six months. 8 months into it I had to reset or restart due to a horrible aiptasia outbreak. That time I used rock that was already cycled. This time I used dry rock and it’s been a battle. And my coral, it doesn’t grow. It’s just there. I use Red Sea coral pro salt and always mix it to 1.024 to 1.027. I let it even out in the tank with my ATO. I have the tank at about 76 to 78 degrees.

I think everyone really needs parameters to be any help. Especially phosphates and nitrates and what tests you use.

Some close up pics of the algae might help too. It’s possible that you have bryopsis, which the clean up crew will usually avoid.
 
I’m using RO water. It’s a 30 gallon JBJ nanotank. I didn’t test parameters this time but I always do. Every time I test it’s always normal. I don’t see anything out of the ordinary or nutrients out of whack. I have green algae on the rocks which I find normal. But it starts to grow into green hair algae. The sands starts to grow on it too. Every month or 2, I have to just scoop up the algae and throw the sand away. It’s like it clumps all together. But it’s green. My snails seems to be uninterested and my black urchin seems to be confused. My tank is a year and six months. 8 months into it I had to reset or restart due to a horrible aiptasia outbreak. That time I used rock that was already cycled. This time I used dry rock and it’s been a battle. And my coral, it doesn’t grow. It’s just there. I use Red Sea coral pro salt and always mix it to 1.024 to 1.027. I let it even out in the tank with my ATO. I have the tank at about 76 to 78 degrees.

Okay, not that I'm pushing you on your what the parameters are, but having some idea of what they trend would help immensely.

Let's go this route, let's talk source water. You say that you use RO water. Not RO/DI water. Do you have a TDS meter to test your incoming water?

If no DI to treat the water, municipal water supplies very from town to town. RO only will not remove all the contaminants that could be in your tap water. This on the surface could be the reason why you're having problems.
 
Nitrate and phosphate parameters may be irrelevant if the algae is uptaking them from the water column. I’d go dark after I set up an algae scrubber. Give it a chance to out compete what is in your tank with a blackout. It doesn’t have to be fancy. You could diy one with a $20 Amazon grow led, over, a small pump, and roughed up knitting mesh. F Aiptasia is fantastic for your Aiptasia problem. Also cut back on feedings. Good luck
 
Ugh, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. But I think I’m on the verge of quitting. Algae is my biggest problem. All my water parameters are within range. This weekend, I just didn’t do one because it won’t surprise me any if they are within range. But it seems like I’m always cleaning my tank from algae. I do weekly water changes. 10% to 15%. Have my lights on a 12 hour schedule. Starting at 8 am with one hour of blues and increase to about whites to about 60% with the intensity starting at 5% and it increases to about 80% and ramps back down from there within the 12 hour schedule. I’ve just noticed that again I’m having aiptasia in the tank, ugh. That’s the last thing I wanted to see in there. Last time it happened was 8 months ago. It seems like every 8 months I have this breakout of aiptasia. I just got some peppermint shrimp and hope it’s peppermint shrimp and not some other shrimp. My coral ain’t growing but they are just there. I just purchased the T5 lights to increase there growth. I got the Blue plus and the Purple ones. I don’t think my kessil lights was doing enough justice for growth but just enough to keep them there. I’m about to throw the towel in and just put the tank at rest. As much as I hate to. I’m just tired of this algae and aiptasia every 8 months and do a restart. If anybody can convince me to keep reefing. Maybe I’ll stay and fight the battle.
I have the same problem so I went fish only for a bit them my uncle gave me 34 corals as he quits keeping corals. I still have some aiptasia and some algae honestly I wish I got a 180g instead of my 60g I told my self that a smaller tank was fine bc I wanted to work on coral. I was wrong I rarely fail with a fish in freshwater or saltwater. I should have simply bought fish to clean the pests out like tangs and butterflies but instead I wanted a small tank so I could keep my 90g freshwater. I repeat I will go through these corals once more and if I fail with corals again I will sell both tanks and buy a larger fish only and move all the fish in and add a copperband. I have a feeling you might be like me and you may not fully be focusing on what you want I want a clean tank focused on fish. Find something to focus on and I literally mean find something literally anything. Try feather duster worms, cool fish, and soft corals find something for me its the thought that now I knoe better as to what I want
 
I can completely understand the frustration. I have been there and got very frustrated. My parameters were all in line and I wasn't overfeeding. Yet algae was beginning to be a problem. The first thing I did was cut back my lighting from 80 down to 30% and from 12 hours to 6.5. My corals weren't happy, but they lived. I also added a bunch of stuff from IPSF.com. Fuge mud, micro hermits and snails, live sand. I also added a larger and more diverse CUC. In less than a week my tank made a turnaround and my lights are back on a full 12 schedule and up to 80%.
The things that worked was increasing biodiversity, IPSF, cutting way back on the lights, and a bigger better CUC. This was all very simple to do, and I honesly believe similar methods may wok for you. Don't give up the good fight yet. Better things are still to come. Good luck.
 
Here are a couple of pictures. I cleaned and turned the top rock around turn hide the green algae. It’s green algae but it then starts to turn into green hair algae. The lower rock you can see the green algae. But slowly it will again start grown into hair algae

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