hello I’m looking for a good cheap return pump that I can also run a manifold with. Any opinions? My tank will be the Red Sea Reefer 170
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Great answerGood and cheap do not go together, you get what you pay for. It's the back bone of your system, not a place to scrimp and scrape.
Okay, i don’t know if I should just go all out and go for the vectra s1 or get one of those sicces with are great
Nothing but the best for my aquatic friends 
Why wouldn’t you go dc?I personally wouldn't go DC for my return pump. A proven, reliable, quiet AC pump would be at the top of my list. I'd probably go with the Fluval SP2, which uses the Askoll pump body. Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0/3.0 and Eheim 1260 are the others I'd consider.
You want 8-10x turnover from sump to dt.
I would say 600gph? Each pump is different some say 600 produce 400 in reality.
A dc pump will make maintenance 10x easier. Second not going cheap.
Your return fails your entire filtration/heating system is now offline.

