ORA farms wave technique for corals

nanomania · Sep 17, 2016

Hey guys, was watching this video, and they are using some other kind of method to create waves for coral growth. i saw the video 3ice, but didnt understand the exact method. Here is the video, check after 20 minutes:

mcarroll · Sep 17, 2016

Cool video, but too long. I didn't see what you were referring to...just looked like water movement.

Sabellafella · Sep 17, 2016

nanomania said:
Hey guys, was watching this video, and they are using some other kind of method to create waves for coral growth. i saw the video 3ice, but didnt understand the exact method. Here is the video, check after 20 minutes:

There surge devices. In laymens terms, its like a toilet bowl drain. Water is pumped into a resivour. Instead of pulling the handle to release, the rising water pulls a float to open the plunger forcing water down into the tanks.

mcarroll · Sep 17, 2016

That was in the video??? I need a more specific time mark....

Reef Pets · Sep 17, 2016

Awesome! Surprisingly I watched the entire video. I would like to see how the trash can method of flow works.
Thanks for sharing.

Reef Pets · Sep 17, 2016

Sabellafella said:
There surge devices. In laymens terms, its like a toilet bowl drain. Water is pumped into a resivour. Instead of pulling the handle to release, the rising water pulls a float to open the plunger forcing water down into the tanks.

I think this is a different method because the flow pipe comes from the top. I know the method you speak of which would need to come from the bottom of the can. He mentioned some sort of syphon method.

jlanger · Sep 17, 2016

Carlson surge device.

Reef Pets · Sep 17, 2016

jlanger said:
Carlson surge device.

I just looked and that's definitely the method.

Chknsamich · Sep 17, 2016

very neat video thanks for posting

nanomania · Sep 17, 2016

mcarroll said:
That was in the video??? I need a more specific time mark....

Can u see tose big boxes? Thats what they use for creating wave motion.. they dont show properly, but thats what they said, surge technique. Watch after 20mints

nanomania · Sep 17, 2016

jlanger said:
Carlson surge device.

Can you explain a bit? Or any good link that provides the detail?

Sabellafella · Sep 17, 2016

Reef Pets said:
Awesome! Surprisingly I watched the entire video. I would like to see how the trash can method of flow works.
Thanks for sharing.

Now that i watched it lol. It looks like they pump flow into the brute, Then comes down into the trey. This is a screen shot from a different video

Sabellafella · Sep 17, 2016

Looks to be 2 of them on each tray. Pretty neat

jlanger · Sep 17, 2016

nanomania said:
Can you explain a bit? Or any good link that provides the detail?

http://www.aquarium-design.com/reef/csm.html

Before the hobby had fancy timers, controllers and wave makers, this was a way to create waves in a reef tank.

Reef Pets · Sep 17, 2016

nanomania said:
Can you explain a bit? Or any good link that provides the detail?

If you're looking for a simple surge device, it doesn't get much easier than this. Its been used in the hobby for years.

mcarroll · Sep 17, 2016

Funny: in a roundabout way this came up in another conversation.

@saltyfilmfolks

In particular the Dr. Carlson article linked here:
http://www.aquarium-design.com/reef/csm.html

I could be mistaken, but the "borneman surge device" seems to be a carlson surge device. (Unless I make a video....then it's the mcarroll surge device.

) The "borneman" video is much more clear about what's happening than the other vid.....but the Carlson article explains it all well.

saltyfilmfolks · Sep 17, 2016

mcarroll said:
Funny: in a roundabout way this came up in another conversation.

@saltyfilmfolks

In particular the Dr. Carlson article linked here:
http://www.aquarium-design.com/reef/csm.html

I could be mistaken, but the "borneman surge device" seems to be a carlson surge device. (Unless I make a video....then it's the mcarroll surge device. ) The "borneman" video is much more clear about what's happening than the other vid.....but the Carlson article explains it all well.

yea, I had forgotten the correct name. Surge devices! I thought they were pretty common in older large home tanks and also aquarium installations, still are I thing, like in atlanta, and doesnt one of the Tunze wave boxes use a similar principal?

And thanks for the Tag! I spoke to one of the Head coral farmers at Macna! She gave me some pretty neat insight into their processes! One of 2000 things I need to research!

mcarroll · Sep 17, 2016

If you think about it, I guess their wave boxes are pretty similar. Simpler setup – and, more importantly, only about the size of a stack of Jenga blocks!

Rick.45cal · Sep 17, 2016

The Carlson surge device and the Borneman surge device operate in different ways. The Carlson surge device has the advantage of no moving parts in the surge device. It operates by filling a large container that when it fills nearly to the top it starts a very large diameter siphon which dumps the entire volume of the device in a couple seconds tops. Very cool at actually creating true wave surge. Brilliant, elegantly simple device.

nanomania · Sep 18, 2016

I think it works like the flush ats (dont know the exact name). Just that it doesnt have a float valve but works on gravity/weight. We can create same wave motions using them.