Orange back wrasse not swimming right

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Yesterday my orange back wrasse was swimming funny, my daughter noticed it first. It has been fine for almost 3 weeks since we received it and it happened fast it seems. Yesterday morning ate and was swimming fine, lunch was fine too and also around 4 to 5 before I left to a fish store. It seems only 2 options, swim bladder or spinal injury. Video is below. It doesn't have a distended abdomen and it's trying to swim using it's two from fins and dorsal but it's body sometimes curves like an L or a C. Obviously very disheartening. I am getting an acclimation box so I can put him in because the very low flow mp40 just blows him away. Any suggestions on what it is and next steps. Hopefully if he's the same in 2 weeks and still has difficulty swimming, I have seen some suggestions of possible euthanasia but have never come across this situation before.

 
Yesterday my orange back wrasse was swimming funny, my daughter noticed it first. It has been fine for almost 3 weeks since we received it and it happened fast it seems. Yesterday morning ate and was swimming fine, lunch was fine too and also around 4 to 5 before I left to a fish store. It seems only 2 options, swim bladder or spinal injury. Video is below. It doesn't have a distended abdomen and it's trying to swim using it's two from fins and dorsal but it's body sometimes curves like an L or a C. Obviously very disheartening. I am getting an acclimation box so I can put him in because the very low flow mp40 just blows him away. Any suggestions on what it is and next steps. Hopefully if he's the same in 2 weeks and still has difficulty swimming, I have seen some suggestions of possible euthanasia but have never come across this situation before.

This article may help you - there seems to be a wrasse disease that occurs with neurologic symptoms. https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/unknown-neurological-wrasse-disease-unwd.901856/

Otherwise - how are the rest of the fish, your parameters, etc.
 
Yes, it does seem to be the UNWD linked above. There is no known cure, since the cause isn't known. It seems to be 100% fatal (sorry!). Early histopathology has ruled out a couple of possible viral causes. It does not seem to be a spinal injury in the sense that the fish got physically damaged (as there is never a corresponding skin injury). It is a spinal problem that seems to be caused by an unknown disease.

Jay
 
Yes, it does seem to be the UNWD linked above. There is no known cure, since the cause isn't known. It seems to be 100% fatal (sorry!). Early histopathology has ruled out a couple of possible viral causes. It does not seem to be a spinal injury in the sense that the fish got physically damaged (as there is never a corresponding skin injury). It is a spinal problem that seems to be caused by an unknown disease.

Jay
Thanks for the article and link. Is it more prevalent in other fish types?? Or certain ones
 
Yesterday my orange back wrasse was swimming funny, my daughter noticed it first. It has been fine for almost 3 weeks since we received it and it happened fast it seems. Yesterday morning ate and was swimming fine, lunch was fine too and also around 4 to 5 before I left to a fish store. It seems only 2 options, swim bladder or spinal injury. Video is below. It doesn't have a distended abdomen and it's trying to swim using it's two from fins and dorsal but it's body sometimes curves like an L or a C. Obviously very disheartening. I am getting an acclimation box so I can put him in because the very low flow mp40 just blows him away. Any suggestions on what it is and next steps. Hopefully if he's the same in 2 weeks and still has difficulty swimming, I have seen some suggestions of possible euthanasia but have never come across this situation before.

Euthanasia may be a direction sad to say as fish is moribund and likely from nuerological issue forementioned . Wish there is something to recommend but not with this issue UNfortunately
 
What is recommended to euthanize if required?
Everyone has their own method. I place a fish which has been a LONG LONG time in a ziplock bag then to freezer until trash day
 
Thanks for the article and link. Is it more prevalent in other fish types?? Or certain ones

It just seems to show up in wrasses, typically flasher or fairy wrasses, but we do have some cases seen in yellow coris wrasse. I've been keeping marine fish for almost 60 years, and I didn't see this until about 10 years ago and then it was pretty rare. Seems to be fairly common now, with most cases being written off as "an injury".

Jay
 
What is recommended to euthanize if required?
Here is a write up I did on fish euthanasia:

Preferred methods for euthanasia

MS-222
Every aquarist should have a plan for specimen euthanasia before they need to employ it. An overdose of buffered Tricaine methane sulfonate (MS-222) is the preferred method for euthanizing fish. Dosing at a rate of greater than 300 mg/l MS-222 along with 300 mg/l sodium bicarbonate is effective for euthanizing fish within 30 minutes. However, MS-222 is expensive, and not readily available in smaller quantities to home aquarists. Removing the fish too soon from the solution may allow it to recover. It is therefore suggested to leave the fish in a small amount of the euthanizing solution, and freeze it for later disposal.

Clove oil (eugenol)
One product that aquarists can buy that is approved by at least some veterinarians and research biologists is clove oil, also called eugenol. A dose of 50 mg/l is usually sufficient in euthanizing fish. This equates to about 0.20 ml of eugenol in one gallon of aquarium water.

Because eugenol does not mix well with water, and because larger volumes are easier for hobbyists to measure out, it can be dosed using the following method:

1) Add 2 ml of eugenol to 100 ml of tank water in a sealed container and shake it vigorously.

2) Add 10 ml of this suspended solution to each gallon of water needed to euthanize the fish.

3) Place the fish in this solution and keep it covered to prevent it from jumping out and to help keep it calm.

4) Wait at least twenty minutes after it stops breathing, and then remove the fish from the solution and freeze it for later disposal.

Other methods
A variety of other methods have been proposed for the euthanasia of fishes, but none are fully accepted by veterinary experts. Still, home aquarists need more common tools to use, so those methods are listed here in roughly descending order of suitability:

Ethanol
Regular alcohol at a dose of 25 ml per liter will cause respiratory collapse and death in fishes within 30 minutes. The trouble is that alcohol is not available in pure form unless it has been “denatured” by the addition of distasteful chemicals such as turpentine. Vodka is about 40% alcohol by volume, so using it 62 ml per liter will give an effective dose.

Decapitation/pithing
Cutting a fish’s spinal cord, right behind the head, is a quick method of euthanasia that is approved for use in food fishes (where the use of chemicals would otherwise make the flesh unfit to eat). The issue is really that the method is distasteful for most people to do, so it is rarely used by aquarists. However, it is quick and effective.

Freezing
Placing the affected fish in a small amount of aquarium water in a sealed container and then placing the container in a freezer is a euthanasia technique used by some people. However, it is slow to work, so it is not considered humane. Its appeal as a method is that the fish is “out of sight” so people feel more detached from the process.
 
It just seems to show up in wrasses, typically flasher or fairy wrasses, but we do have some cases seen in yellow coris wrasse. I've been keeping marine fish for almost 60 years, and I didn't see this until about 10 years ago and then it was pretty rare. Seems to be fairly common now, with most cases being written off as "an injury".

Jay
Thanks for the insight and info, it is very much appreciated
 

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