OrangeBack Fairy Wrasse - Acclimation Worries?

Maritimer · Mar 6, 2016

Thank you - He's actually just swum out from behind the black plastic, and is still breathing very heavily. I've got a dark blue bucket with some RO/DI in it, so I'll go ahead and warm that up . . .

If flukes show up, Prazi-Pro?

Treat prophylacticly with same, regardless??

~Bruce

Humblefish · Mar 6, 2016

Maritimer said:
If flukes show up, Prazi-Pro?

Yes

Maritimer said:
Treat prophylacticly with same, regardless??

No; if no flukes show during the FW dip, there has to be something else (like ich/velvet) afflicting his gills.

Maritimer · Mar 6, 2016

Well, done ... and done.

Got through the dip itself, but not the re-entry. He twitched spasmodically when I put him back into the tank, and sank to the bottom, so I lifted him into the filter's return current where he breathed quietly for a few moments, then went into an uncontrolled high-velocity tailspin that ended with flared fins and gills at the bottom of the tank.

I've spent the last five minutes with him, but not another sign of life after that.

Pretty sure he's gone.

~Bruce, with deepest thanks for the assistance of everyone who commented.

cmcoker · Mar 6, 2016

Maritimer said:
Well, done ... and done.

Got through the dip itself, but not the re-entry. He twitched spasmodically when I put him back into the tank, and sank to the bottom, so I lifted him into the filter's return current where he breathed quietly for a few moments, then went into an uncontrolled high-velocity tailspin that ended with flared fins and gills at the bottom of the tank.

I've spent the last five minutes with him, but not another sign of life after that.

Pretty sure he's gone.

~Bruce, with deepest thanks for the assistance of everyone who commented.

Sorry to hear that.

Humblefish · Mar 6, 2016

dang.

Did you see any flukes at all? Did you temp match and aerate the water? Sorry man.

Maritimer · Mar 6, 2016

Temp matched and aerated, no flukes that I could see.

Thanks - I can't write what I'm feeling right now, because after two attempts with one of the loveliest fish I've ever laid eyes on, the forum's censor would burn out . . . But those expletives are aimed at myself. Your generous assistance has been - and remains - invaluable.

~Bruce

Maritimer · Mar 7, 2016

It's the next day, and it's hard for me to believe how agitated I still feel.

I still _really_ want one of these on Zoey's Reef, but I also _really_ want to not kill them any more.

Which probably falls somewhere under the heading of "Only bad things happen fast . . . "

~Bruce, who can't remember the last time a fish affected him this much.

DeniseAndy · Mar 7, 2016

So sorry.

Duke4Life · Mar 7, 2016

Maritimer said:
It's the next day, and it's hard for me to believe how agitated I still feel.

I still _really_ want one of these on Zoey's Reef, but I also _really_ want to not kill them any more.

Which probably falls somewhere under the heading of "Only bad things happen fast . . . "

~Bruce, who can't remember the last time a fish affected him this much.

Sorry to hear. I go a month or more typically after loosing 1. Do you have the means to ttm fish upon getting?

Humblefish · Mar 7, 2016

Duke4Life said:
Sorry to hear. I go a month or more typically after loosing 1. Do you have the means to ttm fish upon getting?

^^This. TTM is the best option for any fish that is sensitive to meds, as wrasses typically are. However, I do still suggest dosing Prazipro at the onset of transfers 2 & 4 in order to deworm. Just take care never to overdose Prazi with wrasses (if in doubt, underdose a little). I have never lost a wrasse to Prazipro. However, you may experience appetite suppression for the first 24-48 hrs.

Hyposalinity is another option for QT'ing sensitive wrasses. But then you run the chance of encountering a hypo resistant strain of ich.

cmcoker · Mar 7, 2016

Are you bringing the copper level back up for the other fish? I would think this kinda resets the clock

Humblefish · Mar 7, 2016

cmcoker said:
Are you bringing the copper level back up for the other fish? I would think this kinda resets the clock

It does. Which is why I advocate not mixing any new fish with your stock fish when going fallow. Either setup another QT, or wait until after the fallow period has ended before taking on any new fish. You gotta remember copper and not even Chloroquine is a fix all. There are worms to consider (which requires praziquantel treatment), or a gram negative bacterial infection can wipe out all your fish faster than velvet without prompt antibiotic treatment.

Maritimer · Mar 7, 2016

Wise points all . . .

I'll start ramping up the copper again. <sigh>

I'm about out of tanks, filters & heaters, so I'd have to purchase two of each for TTM. (Don't think I really want to do TTM in a 40gallon container...) Still . . . worthy of consideration, as this current run hasn't exactly been a walk in the park. Here's hoping for big-discount aquatics sales at the local Petco!

Many thanks to you all; Duke4Life, cmcoker, DeniseAndy and Humblefish.

~Bruce

Duke4Life · Mar 7, 2016

I use 2 roughly 20 gallon plastic bins and a powerhead. Easy to store away when not in use.

happyhourhero · Mar 7, 2016

I always just use the rubbermaid tubs for TTM. Very cheap and easy to clean/Dry. I just run an air stone and heater. Prime if needed on the later days of transfer. Have had 6 small fish in the tubs and they all made it just fine.

Maritimer · Mar 7, 2016

That does sound pretty easy-peasy ... no biofilter, becasue they're not going to be in there long enough, but yes to a heater, correct?

Are those the rectangular storage-type bins?

~Bruce

happyhourhero · Mar 7, 2016

Maritimer said:
That does sound pretty easy-peasy ... no biofilter, becasue they're not going to be in there long enough, but yes to a heater, correct?

Are those the rectangular storage-type bins?

~Bruce

I just do those with 10 gal water around 1.020 and the heater and a glass thermometer floating around which is easy to clean and dry. Put some egg crate up top.

Duke4Life · Mar 7, 2016

Maritimer said:
That does sound pretty easy-peasy ... no biofilter, becasue they're not going to be in there long enough, but yes to a heater, correct?

Are those the rectangular storage-type bins?

~Bruce

Some people do yes. And yes on the type you mentioned. I also use prazipro on transfers 2, 3 & 4 because I slightly under dose. Knocks out ich and parasites before I observe for 4 weeks after last transfer. I should note that if fish aren't eating I hold off on prazipro and sometimes do this in my quarintine tank instead as it may suppress appetite.