Overcomplicating simple things...

[Tlledsmar]

As with most things in this hobby the word "acclimate" seems to get overcomplicated.

Maybe I'm alone on this but I see "acclimatization" all the time and it's very frustrating because "acclimation" is the real word and I have no idea why we keep making up variations of the word. I swear I keep hearing and seeing "acclimatizated" where "acclimated" is supposed to be. And what's worse!! "Aclimatize" used as a verb!? What? You don't acclimatize a fish. You acclimate a fish.




OK sorry for the soap box pet peave rant.


Tune in next week for my gripes on the subject of "my DT/sump overflows, so I must add valves and switches and nonsense"



What grinds your gears?

 

[wil-yuhm]

I divorced a woman over this. Woman, the sentence is incomplete and I will not perform the task that you are trying to get me to do until you ask in proper English! (It's not like she was a foreign language speaker or anything, English was the first and only language)

An Alphabet vowel please:
L-l-th

 

[wil-yuhm]

I'm reading some of the posts on this thread and thinking how Shakespeare invented or popularized quite a number of words and phrases that are still in use today. Now I'm wondering if the Elizabethans and Jacobeans of the time got together in the pubs and complained about all these newfangled language changes and demanded people speak proper English.

White Horse Tavern

Perhaps before water'd down:
William Tyndale 1400s
White Horse Tavern 1520s (Protestant Reformers met)
Geneva 1550s (harsh language by today's standard)
KJV 1600s (Shakespeare was mention'd)

 

[Tlledsmar]

An Alphabet vowel please:
L-l-th

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to convey.

 

[wil-yuhm]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to convey.

An allusion to an ancient myth.
Lilith refused to perform acts and cried aloud the name.
Events thereafter had fallen.

 

[Tlledsmar]

An allusion to an ancient myth.
Lilith refused to perform acts and cried aloud the name.
Events thereafter had fallen.

That's no allusion, I'm very familiar with the Bible.


I'm out.

 

[wil-yuhm]

That's no allusion, I'm very familiar with the Bible.


I'm out.

Perhaps not if unknown.

 

[Sean Clark]

Well this is fun...

Not really language related, more unit of measure.

"I dose 50ml of Ca and Alk every day."

What does that even mean? It is as though all Ca and Alk solutions were created equal.

Try using a tangible unit of measure that would actually be helpful.

"I dose 10mg/l of Ca and Alk every day"

It doesn't matter what product you are using or what volume of water you are dosing into.

"Hey Joe, I followed your instructions and added 100ml of Magnesium to my system; it only raised my Mg by 25ppm." Insert face palm emoji.

 

[Tlledsmar]

Well this is fun...

Not really language related, more unit of measure.

"I dose 50ml of Ca and Alk every day."

What does that even mean? It is as though all Ca and Alk solutions were created equal.

Try using a tangible unit of measure that would actually be helpful.

"I dose 10mg/l of Ca and Alk every day"

It doesn't matter what product you are using or what volume of water you are dosing into.

"Hey Joe, I followed your instructions and added 100ml of Magnesium to my system; it only raised my Mg by 25ppm." Insert face palm emoji.

For sure! Dosing habits are so highly specific to each person's setup and theory of operation...


My advice is always test, research, and dose accordingly. And I'm gonna be flamed here but seachem 2 part has never done me dirty.

 

[wil-yuhm]

Temple and tempel confusion (now I carry a tent peg everywhere.)

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

As with most things in this hobby the word "acclimate" seems to get overcomplicated.

Maybe I'm alone on this but I see "acclimatization" all the time and it's very frustrating because "acclimation" is the real word and I have no idea why we keep making up variations of the word. I swear I keep hearing and seeing "acclimatizated" where "acclimated" is supposed to be. And what's worse!! "Aclimatize" used as a verb!? What? You don't acclimatize a fish. You acclimate a fish.




OK sorry for the soap box pet peave rant.


Tune in next week for my gripes on the subject of "my DT/sump overflows, so I must add valves and switches and nonsense"



What grinds your gears?

"What is the difference between acclimation and acclimatization?

Acclimation is the coordinated phenotypic response developed by the animal to a specific stressor in the environment while acclimatization refers to the coordinated response to several individual stressors simultaneously (e.g., temperature, humidity, and photoperiod)."

So, for our purposes, acclimatization is more accurate.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Also, from the Oxford dictionary:

acclimatization
noun
the process or result of becoming accustomed to a new climate or to new conditions.
"the most important feature of acclimatization to high altitude is an increase in the rate and depth of breathing"


And from https://grammarist.com:

In American English, acclimatize is recommended by many dictionaries and usage guides, yet acclimate, which is actually the older word, is far more common. Canadian writers tend to use acclimatize. The words' corresponding nouns are acclimation, acclimatisation, and acclimatization.

 

[jabberwock]

I did not read all of the posts. I get annoyed when people do not understand that the word data is plural.

It is not correct to say, "the data", it is correct to say, "these data".

Sorry, I am a total data nerd.

 

[wil-yuhm]

Also, from the Oxford dictionary:

acclimatization
noun
the process or result of becoming accustomed to a new climate or to new conditions.
"the most important feature of acclimatization to high altitude is an increase in the rate and depth of breathing"


And from https://grammarist.com:

In American English, acclimatize is recommended by many dictionaries and usage guides, yet acclimate, which is actually the older word, is far more common. Canadian writers tend to use acclimatize. The words' corresponding nouns are acclimation, acclimatisation, and acclimatization.

Interesting,
"In the rate"
From oceanic depths rate of ascension can result in bends or high altitude sickness by climbing mountains.
Surely divers here no proper rates of ascension (bubble up).
Respiration systems and artificial/chemical/mechanical respirators aid but blood thins or thickens depending on time exposed to environmental conditions (depth or altitude).
Learned a new word today, "phenotypic."
Thanks for sharing Erin1971Texas.
Enjoy

 

[wil-yuhm]

I did not read all of the posts. I get annoyed when people do not understand that the word data is plural.

It is not correct to say, "the data", it is correct to say, "these data".

Sorry, I am a total data nerd.

These and those can indicate relational position.
Please edify if incorrect but couldn't these data figures and those data figures indicate which was favorable or far off whether by accuracy or origination?
Enjoy Jabberwock

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

I did not read all of the posts. I get annoyed when people do not understand that the word data is plural.

It is not correct to say, "the data", it is correct to say, "these data".

Sorry, I am a total data nerd.

What about "the sheep" when referring to an entire flock?
Or "the fish" when referring to an entire tank?

"The" is not singular like "A" is.

 

[wil-yuhm]

What about "the sheep" when referring to an entire flock?
Or "the fish" when referring to an entire tank?

"The" is not singular like "A" is.

Absolute vs relative perspective or possession?
I am asking
"A vs the," a son of many vs the Son meaning only or first in subordination. Suppose both ontological and economical subordination could apply "the" from 2nd person to succession of persons?
I wouldn't expect a person referring to another person's fish as the fish unless a person was suggesting another person's (his) fish was ideal (not idea).
Then again perhaps context clarifies (narrow or broad).
Another point of interest place a before new and anew means similarly new but not ex nihilo.
A church vs the Church or church is another example. Anything other than a church or our church referred from within and I expect undesirable government and/or authority.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Absolute vs relative perspective or possession?
I am asking
"A vs the," a son of many vs the Son meaning only or first in subordination. Suppose both ontological and economical subordination could apply from 2nd person succeeding so on?
I wouldn't expect a person referring to another person's fish as the fish unless a person was suggesting another person's fish was ideal (not idea).
Then again perhaps context clarifies (narrow or broad).
Another point of interest place a before new and anew means similarly new but not ex nihilo.
A church vs the Church or church is another example. Anything other than a church referred from within and I expect undesirable government and/or authority.

I'm not really following you...
But yes, if your tank had ich, for example, and I wanted to ask you how things were going, I'd ask, "how are the fish?" Meaning all of them.

 

[wil-yuhm]

I'm not really following you...
But yes, if your tank had ich, for example, and I wanted to ask you how things were going, I'd ask, "how are the fish?" Meaning all of them.

Thank you for clarification.

 

[Tlledsmar]

Also, from the Oxford dictionary:

acclimatization
noun
the process or result of becoming accustomed to a new climate or to new conditions.
"the most important feature of acclimatization to high altitude is an increase in the rate and depth of breathing"


And from https://grammarist.com:

In American English, acclimatize is recommended by many dictionaries and usage guides, yet acclimate, which is actually the older word, is far more common. Canadian writers tend to use acclimatize. The words' corresponding nouns are acclimation, acclimatisation, and acclimatization.

That's an oversimplification, with a bias. Please keep that type of mental gymnastics to your Facebook page

 

[olonmv]

“Hot water heater” if the water was already hot, it wouldn’t need heating.