Overnight PH swings anything to worry about?

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I finally got a controller and started monitoring and graphing my PH:

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I know that the swing is probably due to photosynthesis shutting down over night but is it something I should try to fix? I don't really have the space to run a reverse light cycle refugium.
 
What is the actual nightly low?

The nightly low looks quite low to me, and if accurate, I'd personally do something about it. Anything below 7.8 and I'd act.

The trend looks to be going up, which is good.

the range day to night seems pretty large, possibly suggesiting poor aeration.
 
The nightly low looks quite low to me, and if accurate, I'd personally do something about it. Anything below 7.8 and I'd act.
Hmm... yeah I guess I'll act. Got back from a week long trip to find a decent amount of Cyano, so did a 3g water change and PH is even lower. It dipped to 7.68 overnight.

I'll do some searching here, but any advice on short term and long term strategy to mitigate? I've read about baking soda, but not sure if that's something I'd need to dose regularly or some better way to keep things stabilized.
 
the range day to night seems pretty large, possibly suggesiting poor aeration.
I have a Wavemaker and my returned pretty close to the surface so there's a decent amount of agitation but I do see a pretty decent amount of surface scum. I'll try to adjust my overflow, I think I need to drop some water level to get it working correctly (this is an Evo 13.5)
 
Hmm... yeah I guess I'll act. Got back from a week long trip to find a decent amount of Cyano, so did a 3g water change and PH is even lower. It dipped to 7.68 overnight.

I'll do some searching here, but any advice on short term and long term strategy to mitigate? I've read about baking soda, but not sure if that's something I'd need to dose regularly or some better way to keep things stabilized.

Baking soda will not raise pH. Higher pH alk additives can, but only if you need alk.

Fresher air to the room and aquarium can help a lot.
 
Fresher air to the room and aquarium can help a lot.
Thanks. It's a bit tricky as it's in the kids' bedroom which has to have a shut door at night. That said, the AC has a return in the room so it should be getting a decent air mix with the rest of the house. Also while we were away the last week I had the door open.

I redirected one of the return lines to create more surface agitation and readjusted the skimmer to hopefully pull more scum off the surface.
 
Thanks. It's a bit tricky as it's in the kids' bedroom which has to have a shut door at night. That said, the AC has a return in the room so it should be getting a decent air mix with the rest of the house. Also while we were away the last week I had the door open.

I redirected one of the return lines to create more surface agitation and readjusted the skimmer to hopefully pull more scum off the surface.

A CO2 scrubber can be used.

i address pH issues here:

 
What is the actual nightly low?

The nightly low looks quite low to me, and if accurate, I'd personally do something about it. Anything below 7.8 and I'd act.

The trend looks to be going up, which is good.

the range day to night seems pretty large, possibly suggesiting poor aeration.
What is a tolerable pH swing over 24 hour periods. I've been dropping to 8.0 at night and rising to 8.3 during the day. I'm pretty much sure this is because I moved a fish to my fuge and changed the light schedule so he could have some sleep time. It's currently a fish only tank.
 
What is a tolerable pH swing over 24 hour periods. I've been dropping to 8.0 at night and rising to 8.3 during the day. I'm pretty much sure this is because I moved a fish to my fuge and changed the light schedule so he could have some sleep time. It's currently a fish only tank.

That is OK, IMO.

This is my pH swing comment in general:


The Daily pH Swing

One of the first things that aquarists who measure pH notice is that the pH changes from day to night in coral reef aquaria. This diurnal (daily) change in pH in reef aquaria occurs because of the biological processes of photosynthesis and respiration. Photosynthesis is the process whereby organisms convert carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrate and oxygen. So there is a net consumption of carbon dioxide during the day. This causes many aquaria to become deficient in CO2 during the day, raising their pH.

Likewise, all organisms also carry out the process of respiration, which converts carbohydrates back into energy. In the net sense, it is the opposite of photosynthesis, producing carbon dioxide and reducing pH. This process is happening continuously in reef aquaria, but is most evident at night when photosynthesis is not pushing pH upward.

The net effect of these processes is that pH rises during the day and drops at night in most reef aquaria. This change varies from less than a tenth of a pH unit, to more than 0.5 pH units in typical aquaria. Complete aeration of the aquarium’s water will entirely prevent this diurnal pH swing, by driving out any excess carbon dioxide or absorbing carbon dioxide when deficient (assuming the carbon dioxide levels in the home air are steady). In practice, equilibration of carbon dioxide by aeration is difficult, and this goal is not often attained. Consequently, the pH does change between day and night.

Higher alkalinity implies more bicarbonate and carbonate in the water, and together these serve to buffer the water against pH changes (that is, they resist the change in pH as additional acids or bases are added). So the higher the alkalinity, the lower the diurnal pH swing. Also, the higher the pH, the more effective is the buffering provided by bicarbonate and carbonate in seawater (up to about pH 9), so the higher the average pH, the smaller the diurnal swing. Additional chemicals in the water also help to reduce the pH swing; borate, for example, buffers against pH changes.

With that all said, however, I do not believe that the actual change in pH each day is particularly important. I won’t go into the reasoning behind this claim here, other than stating that it is my opinion, based on my understanding of how most organisms control their internal pH, but I do not believe that diurnal pH changes that stay within the range of pH 7.8 to 8.5 are particularly stressful to most reef organisms. That is, these changes are no more stressful than being at the same pH all day. A constant pH of 7.9 may be worse for many organisms than a pH that varies from 8.0 to 8.5 each day. Of course, if the diurnal swing takes the pH outside of this range, i.e., below 7.8 or above 8.5, then certain processes take place that should be corrected, as detailed below.
 

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