Parasite Help

[andys]

Hi

Over the past couple of days I have lost almost all my fish in my QT system. All started after last weeks fish shipment. So i figured I would remove the last couple fish to a fresh system when I notice on the bottom glass little tiny dots moving. This system houses all incoming fish which Copper is on average 2.5-3.0 (copper power) couldn’t be pods I have never added them. I’m guessing these little white things is what killed my fish. Any ideas. See attached video and pic

 

[SkillKing21]

It might be flukes.

 

[andys]

Can’t figure out how to add the video

 

[andys]

It might be flukes.

No it’s not flukes. I do know that

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

No, you are probably losing fish to copper toxicity. 2.5ppm is the max dose and the ideal window is 1.75ppm with a minimum therapeutic level of 1.5ppm. 3.0ppm is highly toxic and very well could be killing your fish.

 

[andys]

No, you are probably losing fish to copper toxicity. 2.5ppm is the max dose and the ideal window is 1.75ppm with a minimum therapeutic level of 1.5ppm. 3.0ppm is highly toxic and very well could be killing your fish.

Sorry don’t by it. I have been keeping fish like this for years and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it’s not copper poisoning. Those little white sand like parasites are alive and moving on the bottom glass

 

[SkillKing21]

We need a video to make out what it is.

 

[andys]

We need a video to make out what it is.

I agree. How do i upload it via Tapatalk

 

[SkillKing21]

Not sure how to do it on that.

 

[4FordFamily]

No, you are probably losing fish to copper toxicity. 2.5ppm is the max dose and the ideal window is 1.75ppm with a minimum therapeutic level of 1.5ppm. 3.0ppm is highly toxic and very well could be killing your fish.

This is likely a factor.

Sorry don’t by it. I have been keeping fish like this for years and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it’s not copper poisoning. Those little white sand like parasites are alive and moving on the bottom glass

Before proper checking methods such as the Hanna checker I kept my fish at this level. Since using Hanna, I realized that what I thought was 2.5 was actually 4+. Some fish can survive copper this high but it’s not ideal and more importantly unnecessary. It will kill fish faster.

The more likely culprit is a bacterial infection, uronema, ammonia, or oxygen. Copper that high often leads to bacterial blooms in the water column itself as well that starve the fish of oxygen.

Any red sores on the dead fish? How are you handling ammonia? Do you use a seachem ammonia alert badge? Beneficial bacteria? If so which kind?

What size QT? How many fish? Do you have a powerhead? Airstone?

 

[andys]

This is likely a factor.



Before proper checking methods such as the Hanna checker I kept my fish at this level. Since using Hanna, I realized that what I thought was 2.5 was actually 4+. Some fish can survive copper this high but it’s not ideal and more importantly unnecessary. It will kill fish faster.

The more likely culprit is a bacterial infection, uronema, ammonia, or oxygen. Copper that high often leads to bacterial blooms in the water column itself as well that starve the fish of oxygen.

Any red sores on the dead fish? How are you handling ammonia? Do you use a seachem ammonia alert badge? Beneficial bacteria? If so which kind?

What size QT? How many fish? Do you have a powerhead? Airstone?

Evening 4fordFamily

no Ammonia no nothing beside these thing that look like pods. QT system is 150 gallons, with RK2 protein skimmer. I keep permanent fish in there to monitor the water quality. some of the few permanent fish have been in there for over 2 years. no red soars. i wish I could upload this video

 

[4FordFamily]

Evening 4fordFamily

no Ammonia no nothing beside these thing that look like pods. QT system is 150 gallons, with RK2 protein skimmer. I keep permanent fish in there to monitor the water quality. some of the few permanent fish have been in there for over 2 years. no red soars. i wish I could upload this video

Healthy fish can often fight off both infections and uronema. Newer fish won’t likely be able to do the same with as rough a shape as they arrive through the distribution system these days.

I recommend against your quarantine system, it unnecessarily treats fish many times. Reusing QT tanks also causes biofilm issues that can make it difficult to medicate.

A QT tank shouldn’t have pods— if it does this means two things to me:

1) you don’t treat with medications in it
2) you have live rock and live sand (which absorb medication and make the levels unstable)

 

[andys]

 

[SkillKing21]

Copepods?

 

[andys]

Healthy fish can often fight off both infections and uronema. Newer fish won’t likely be able to do the same with as rough a shape as they arrive through the distribution system these days.

I recommend against your quarantine system, it unnecessarily treats fish many times. Reusing QT tanks also causes biofilm issues that can make it difficult to medicate.

A QT tank shouldn’t have pods— if it does this means two things to me:

1) you don’t treat with medications in it
2) you have live rock and live sand (which absorb medication and make the levels unstable)

I do not have live rock nor sand I medicate everything. Iam a fish exporter on a small scale mainly rare angles. anyway the system only uses marinepure for bio. tanks are bare bottom.

 

[andys]

Copepods?

I did not added then nor would I to said system

 

[andys]

Know one has any idea what these are ?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Know one has any idea what these are ?

@Humblefish

 

[andys]

Hi

Suck these up in a pipet and put in small glass. Better and close video. More system info: 150 qt/holding system for new Arrivals. Marinepure balls and a protein skimmer and auto top off. Copper is always in there between 2.5-3.0 water is usually changed out and cleaned every 45 days or so.

 

[Stuartmercer]

cant be copepods. copper would kill them...