Pease help!

[Yuri Prigodich]

Please help, some of my frags and an Acan started to turn into a white slime. The flesh is turning white and slimy. One Gonipora was all slime and smelled like rotten flesh. And when rinsed immediately everything washed off to a skeleton. Parameters are ok. Flow was a bit low but have turned it up since.
Temp 79
Salinity 35
Calcium 435
Alk. 9.5
Mag. 1420
Nitrates between 5-10 (hard to tell the color)

Ammonia was 0 a couple days ago (need to test again)

 

[Ranjib]

Gonipora can be very sensitive to water chemistry. Can you tell us little bit about your tank? Age, light , flow etc. Both the corals that were melted are very sensitive to strong lights

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

Gonipora can be very sensitive to water chemistry. Can you tell us little bit about your tank? Age, light , flow etc. Both the corals that were melted are very sensitive to strong lights

The par is measuring at around 80-100.
The tank has been up for about 4 month. It’s a 45 gallon frag tank with a 30 gallon sump with live rock. It’s FULL of LPS coral 20 colonies and about 100 frags.
Someone said it’s brown Jelly so I dipped everything in Revive just a bit ago...
Flow was low but I turned it up today.
Parameters are ok, except I had I big magnesium swing by accident when dosing about a week ago. Went from 1250-1430.
Calcium is between 430-440
Alkalinity is around 9.1-9.3
Salinity is 34-35

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

The par is measuring at around 80-100.
The tank has been up for about 4 month. It’s a 45 gallon frag tank with a 30 gallon sump with live rock. It’s FULL of LPS coral 20 colonies and about 100 frags.
Someone said it’s brown Jelly so I dipped everything in Revive just a bit ago...
Flow was low but I turned it up today.
Parameters are ok, except I had I big magnesium swing by accident when dosing about a week ago. Went from 1250-1430.
Calcium is between 430-440
Alkalinity is around 9.1-9.3
Salinity is 34-35

And the slime stunk my whole house up...

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

I also have 3 other separate systems. two more QT’s and the main display tanks which is total of 3 tanks. Nothing else has the problem just the one QT tank.

 

[Ranjib]

PAR is not that high, so probably not the culprit. Goniopora can be a little hard for the first year or two . Were you feeding any small particle/rotifier like food. Is this a situation that is unfolding recently? or things are getting bad from some time..

lets see what the #reefsquad says. Can be some infection , Im not sure.. But the tank is way too new :-/ .

 

[Ron Reefman]

I have been in the hobby for years and I don't even try Acans or Goniopora corals any more. I don't know what the issue is, but they just do no last long term in my tank(s). And I've kept some difficult sps Acropora corals with no issues. So IMHO they can be harder to keep, although I know some reefers have tanks full of them and find them easy to keep. I just wish I knew what the difference was between their tanks and mine.

Good luck.

 

[ngoodermuth]

I have been in the hobby for years and I don't even try Acans or Goniopora corals any more. I don't know what the issue is, but they just do no last long term in my tank(s). And I've kept some difficult sps Acropora corals with no issues. So IMHO they can be harder to keep, although I know some reefers have tanks full of them and find them easy to keep. I just wish I knew what the difference was between their tanks and mine.

Good luck.

+1

Goniopora, especially wild colonies, need certain trace elements and a bit more nutrient-dense water (established tank, particulate foods, and I think iron and manganese were the important ones if I remember correctly).

Aquacultured pieces that have spent a few generations in captivity, are a bit easier and more tolerant. I remember when the ORA ones were first released, it was a big deal because the wild colonies were so difficult to keep.

I’ve had mixed results with acans too, some have thrived, and others did great for a while and then all of a sudden started to STN and couldn’t recover. Of course adding a couple angels put my delusions of an acan garden to rest [emoji12]

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

PAR is not that high, so probably not the culprit. Goniopora can be a little hard for the first year or two . Were you feeding any small particle/rotifier like food. Is this a situation that is unfolding recently? or things are getting bad from some time..

lets see what the #reefsquad says. Can be some infection , Im not sure.. But the tank is way too new :-/ .

I feed 70/30 Benepets and Reef Roids mix. Along with polyp extender before hand. It just happens over the last couple days. But the frags are new. This is one of my quarantine tanks so I just put the affected frags in about 2 weeks ago.

 

[Ranjib]

As others called out , there’s whole range of complicated issue from care , origin, chemistry requirement etc. I would suggest let’s have patience and first check if this is just limited to these two corals . After that we can focus on targeting any one of this two coral ‘s success in your tank. They are hard to keep but not impossible. Plan and share those plans with us so that we can review and comment . For acans if it’s lord, you Ned low light, low flow , if water is too clean then chunky food as well. Acclimation is very important. Aggression and few other factors also needs to be chalked out. But again, we have done this, I was able to grow a decent lord colony after my first year of failure . You can too, just learn and persevere .

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

So I dipped almost everything in Revive last night. Most of the frags look happy, but my Snow White Gonipora looks like this now. One of the Acans also has weird stuff on it. And the afterburner Blasto is loosing a layer. Is it Brown Jelly??
Pulling my hair out over here already...

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

+1

Goniopora, especially wild colonies, need certain trace elements and a bit more nutrient-dense water (established tank, particulate foods, and I think iron and manganese were the important ones if I remember correctly).

Aquacultured pieces that have spent a few generations in captivity, are a bit easier and more tolerant. I remember when the ORA ones were first released, it was a big deal because the wild colonies were so difficult to keep.

I’ve had mixed results with acans too, some have thrived, and others did great for a while and then all of a sudden started to STN and couldn’t recover. Of course adding a couple angels put my delusions of an acan garden to rest [emoji12]

+1

Goniopora, especially wild colonies, need certain trace elements and a bit more nutrient-dense water (established tank, particulate foods, and I think iron and manganese were the important ones if I remember correctly).

Aquacultured pieces that have spent a few generations in captivity, are a bit easier and more tolerant. I remember when the ORA ones were first released, it was a big deal because the wild colonies were so difficult to keep.

I’ve had mixed results with acans too, some have thrived, and others did great for a while and then all of a sudden started to STN and couldn’t recover. Of course adding a couple angels put my delusions of an acan garden to rest [emoji12]

Thank you for the input. Really appreciate it.
Question for you, is this Brown Jelly?? My order of frags that I put in before I saw the problem came in and I don’t know where to put it. I have 32 Biocube set up. But it’s onlt been about one and a half weeks since it’s been up. I did put a large rock from my current sump in it. Ammonia and nitrates test at almost 0...

 

[ngoodermuth]

I'm not great a diagnosing coral diseases... but it sure looks/sounds like it could be. Hopefully someone with experience with BJD directly will chime in #reefsquad

 

[Tuan’s Reef]

Sorry for your loses. It does not look good at all. Not sure what you can salvage out of this. I hear that fragging pieces of good polyps and transferring it to another system may save a few. But I would worry that it may spread as seen here.

Had the same thing happen to my hammers recently as well and nothing I did saved it. Dipped , transferred it another . I couldn’t frag mine as all the heads had it. Good luck!

Oddly enough I have had my acans the longest and it’s thriving still today with explosive growth

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

The Blasto opened back up. Before and after 30 min

 

[Flippers4pups]

Looks like BJD. Here's some info:

http://aquariumcoraldiseases.weebly.com/brown-jelly-syndrome-bjs--brown-band-disease-brb.html

 

[Flippers4pups]

I'd try a Metro dip in low salinity (1.015) for 5mins. Blasting off the dieing tissue in the dip. Rinse with saltwater and place back in the tank. I say metronidazole, because most reefers will have that on hand.

Isolating infected corals would be ideal from the tank that they were in. It's highly contagious.

If that doesn't work, iodine dip them. Lugols solution with same way as the metro dip.

Best of luck to you!

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

I'd try a Metro dip in low salinity (1.015) for 5mins. Blasting off the dieing tissue in the dip. Rinse with saltwater and place back in the tank. I say metronidazole, because most reefers will have that on hand.

Isolating infected corals would be ideal from the tank that they were in. It's highly contagious.

If that doesn't work, iodine dip them. Lugols solution with same way as the metro dip.

Best of luck to you!

Thank you,
I do not have metronidazole, but I do have Lugols. I dipped in Revive last night. Is it ok to dip in Lugols again today? Will a UV sterilizer help?

 

[Yuri Prigodich]

I'd try a Metro dip in low salinity (1.015) for 5mins. Blasting off the dieing tissue in the dip. Rinse with saltwater and place back in the tank. I say metronidazole, because most reefers will have that on hand.

Isolating infected corals would be ideal from the tank that they were in. It's highly contagious.

If that doesn't work, iodine dip them. Lugols solution with same way as the metro dip.

Best of luck to you!

Or what is metronidazole?

 

[Flippers4pups]

Thank you,
I do not have metronidazole, but I do have Lugols. I dipped in Revive last night. Is it ok to dip in Lugols again today? Will a UV sterilizer help?

Yes. Uv probably won't help. The protozoan's are local to the coral, not free swimming.

Or what is metronidazole?

Here one form of it:

https://www.marinedepot.com/Seachem_Laboratories_MetroPlex_5_Grams-SC08010-FIMEPSIN-vi.html