Phoshate between 0.03-0.06 - advanced reefers help!

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Looking for some tips from the advanced reefers out there. Here are my specs. I have had my tank up for about 18 months. I am having trouble getting and keeping my phosphate below .03 consistently. I run GFO and do water changes consistently. I clean my equipment (including my sump). I don't see much algae but my SPS growth is EXTREMELY slow. any tips on keeping phosphate low would be appreciated. my alk / cal / mag levels are consistent with dosing pumps. lighting is two kessil 150w's. 57 gallon rimless. 5 small fish. small bioload. feed sparingly with PE Mysis and Pellet. I use the Hannah phosphate checker and my reading almost always between .03-.06. when I add new GFO it will go down to 0.0. I can only conclude that my lack of growth is either high phosphate or the kessil lights are not the right choice for SPS. anyone have any tips / tricks / methods to keep phosphate consistently below .03?? thanks
 
0.03 to 0.06 is optimal for SPS growth. What are your other levels at? As well as nitrate level?
 
dwing,

IMO, I don't think this is anything to worry about and is almost negligible ....there are a lot of people that would love to have 3 one hundredths level for PO4...now if you mean 0.3 or 0.6 that is a different story.
 
ok thanks. I appreciate the help. I was dosing manually and just switched to dosing pumps about two months ago. now that my levels are stable I will give it some time and see how everything reacts.
 
.03-.06 is NOT optimal for SPS growth. P04 can decrease the rate of calcification (the speed that your corals build their skeletons. Growth rate). Reef Aquarium Water Parameters by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com)

You shouldn't have your phosphate fluctuating so much. SPS hate change. Try running your GFO for shorter periods of time.

GFO:
Think about it like using duct tape to clean the lint off your pants. The lint sticks to the tape. Once every inch of the tape has lint sticking to it, no more lint sticks. GFO/Carbon works in a very similar way. Carbon has organics and particles stick to it, GFO picks up phosphates.

Why be careful with GFO? Any change in a reef tank that is fast, good or bad, can be devastating to corals. Why would one run GFO only a few hours a day? Because one figures that if his phosphates are high, running it for a few hours a day will only lower it so much and it will not be a shock to the system.

If you use 'less than the recommended amount' but keep the pump on 24/7, well, all you have done is run water through it until it cannot absorb any more phosphates. You haven't really bought yourself anything here as far as the speed of the phosphate decrease, you have just limited how far it will go down. If you put enough in the reactor to absorb every last phosphate in the tank running the pump 24/7 for the next 3 days and then the GFO will be used up, great. However, if you don't replace the GFO for 4 weeks, well then that is 25 days that the phosphates have to build up before you replace the GFO. Then, you put in the full amount and it starts all over, drops it to zero over a few days and then keeps it there slightly longer than the last time. You essentially put your tank on a yo yo where the route down to zero phosphates is fast and the route back up to higher phosphates is slow.

What to do? My advice is that when you start GFO, use the recommended amount, but only run it for a few hours a day, that way, your phosphates don't lower too fast. After a week, maybe you can change to 24/7. Some people complain about 'clogging' of the reactor, to which I say, switch to using half the recommended amount, but change it twice as often. Personally, I run a little more than half the recommended amount, I run it 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours in the evening and I replace it every 2 weeks religiously now.

Starting with less than the recommended amount could work if you intend to step it down, but it is harder to keep up with I think. You'd have to do something like 3 Tablespoons over 3 days and that lowers it from .70 to .60 and then is exhausted. Now, I will go with 4 tablespoons over 4 days and that lowers it from .60 to .45 so on and so forth. Then, if you forget to change it out after a few days, they start to go back up. For me, it is easier to put the reactor on a timer and just control how much water is going through the GFO. Up to the person, I guess. You for sure can't use half the recommended amount but still wait 4-6 weeks to change it out, that will absolutely not help ease into it, in my estimation.

Here's some info on Phosphate removal: Anybody using an all in one gfo/carbon?

It's hard to tell what the problem for you slow growth is with so many variables. Try getting you phosphate and other levels as stable as possible and let it run like this for a few months. If you see no improvement, you can assume there is another problem. ie., the lights.
 
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