Plans for NEW TANK: go wider -or- go deeper?

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i have a standard 6x2x2 180 & 8x2x2 240 both acrylic i love both, the 240 more so because it's bigger. I don't wish either one was taller, not even a little bit. but i do wish both were 36" front to back instead of 24". even at 24" it still limits the rock work & what you can do & still have room on the floor of the tank for coral. if i buy another one it will be at least 36" front to back.
 
I went 72 x 30 x 30 for my lps and this has become my favorite dimension. I have a 48 x 30 x 30 for discus and wish i could have made it longer. I love my lps dimensions so much i am going to convert my red sea reefer xl425 sps tank to a 72 x 30 x 30 to give the corals more vertical space to grow. Also, i feel a 30 inch deep tank gives tangs and other larger fish a little more headroom to swim. Unless you have long arms like the 6' 4" guy this is as deep as you would want though. The 30 inch fro t to back is great for aquascaping too. Anybody want a used RRR xl 425?
How much for the tank ????
 
I see videos of people who go full scuba dive gear to clean their deep tank so there's always that option. :p:cool:
 
I used to think my 180 was awesome with 24" front to back. When I moved into the 300 with 36" front to back it was that much better. SO many options for aquascaping! My goal is to get into an 8' x 48" tank and I think that's about where I draw the line. For height the 27" I currently have seems to be just about right. I would not go higher than 30" because I can barely reach the bottom of the tank as it is and certainly can't get to the back without a grabber or laying on the top of the tank. I don't have to do it often so I'd deal with a larger box in a heartbeat. It would be worth it because of the fish I could add. :0)
 
Seeing a ton of 60" long tanks here... Never understood why 5' isn't a standard offering. It's an excellent length, if you're going short and fat.

There's my deal. Short and fat. Mine is 60 x 30 x 18. Height? All that does is cost you wet sleeves.

Shop I used to go to once in a while bought a used tank, cheap. 10' long, 24" wide, 36" tall. Set it up as a shop display. Maintenance is a nightmare. Bought it cheap, because maintenance was a nightmare for the original purchaser. At 36" tall, honestly, you need a SCUBA setup to clean the darned thing. At 24" wide, you need a small child, with a SCUBA setup. Don't know about you, but I'm NOT doing that kind of maintenance every week. Oh, BTW: The store doesn't either... That big tank went low light, fish only, with a magnet scraper about the only maintenance they ever do.

I'm of the opinion that your tank should be sized to you, and the position you want to put the tank. Tape it out on the floor. Can you get around it? Now... act like you were trying to reach into the tank, and measure from your armpit to the floor. That, minus stand height, should give you tank height and depth. Note, if you reach further OUT, you're not going to reach as far DOWN.

Can you get behind the tank? If so, you can go DOUBLE the width, and still reach everything. That's why I went Peninsula, and why I'm unlikely to ever go back to a 'typical' aquarium mount.

I'm not looking to 'upgrade'... but I am maybe looking to expand. I've got an enclosed patio, concrete floor... mostly a party room. Pool table, bar, dart board, etc. I'm seriously considering a molded plastic livestock watering tank. Sitting on the floor, raised a few inches on a platform. Say 20" tall tank, plus a foot puts the top rim at 32". Seems a good height to me. Look down only. If I can bend at the waist to reach out, Figuring 20" depth, I can pretty easily reach something, what 36" away?

So... 72x 72x 20? Mounted so you can walk around 3 sides? 500 gallons, or so?

How bout round? 8' diameter, 24" depth? That'd be 625g or so :D

Oh, yeah :D
 
I have the standard 120, 4x2x2.
24" tall works for me.
So I think it depends on the room and position you have decided for the tank.
My only regret it that I did not position the 120 corner overflow as a peninsula.
If I had, I have the room, I may have not even considered an upgrade.
For depth I think it depends on the scape.
I have access to the back as I do not have the great rock wall.
As the tank grows in getting to the back has become difficult at best.
If you plan the standard rock wall and your tank is in the standard position then 36" front to back would be perfect, imo.
My upgrade will be either a peninsula 72x36x24 or 72x48x24.


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My upgrade will be either a peninsula 72x36x24 or 72x48x24.


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If you're already considering it, I'd say go with the 48" front to back. If you don't you'll always think you should have. :0)
 
Well...I'm in the mood for a list. :)

___WIDER___

Pros:
- Allows for larger fish options. More horizontal swimming space is more important than depth for fish.
- Easier to maintain good gas exchange because of high water to air surface area. (Better Oxygenation and CO2 dissipation and increase in PH )
- Easier to clean and work in. Cleaning/ or gluing flags/ or target feeding is less cumbersome.
- Allows for more variety of species to live in the tank and more territories to be established.
- more room for sump and equipment under the tank!

Cons:

- Takes up more space in your home
- More evaporation: more humidity in the air and have a larger ATO or more frequent refills.
- Burning through more RODI filters with all that ATO refillage! LOL (minor con)
- More lighting Required to cover your tank ($$$$)
- More substrate to clean, or areas detritus to syphon.
- Food gets lost/ wasted easier. More feeding may be required as fish and other livestock are more dispersed.


| TALLER |

Pros:
- Looks more like a real "slice" of the Ocean with more open water
- Larger viewing pane to enjoy your tank.
- Perhaps more favorable for schooling fish who enjoy swimming in open water (Anthias, Chromis....)
- Less lighting fixtures required saving you money, but more penetrating lights may be required.
- Less evaporation
- Maybe Less likely to get "jumpers"? not sure about this but interesting to speculate about.
- Save space in your home since the tank is not taking up all the Square footage.
- more room for individual corals to grow up/out.
- less amount substrate required, if you don't go bare bottom. saving money.
- Good opportunity to build a floating aqua scape since you have so much vertical glass to work with.
- Feeding is simpler. The food will not get lost and wasted as much. It's more likely that the fish will see the food and have a longer chance to eat it when it's dropped in the tank before it swept up in the the overflow or lost in the substrate/ rock crevices.


Cons:
- Rock scaping is more difficult on narrow tanks. Have to be creative to add enough life rock without piling and filling to bottom.
- Need to more carefully consider clearance between tank and ceiling for maintenance and mounting light fixtures (and canopy you you are doing) this will fit.
- Perhaps limiting your fish selection by narrowing the width of your tank.
- Perfect lighting for your coral needs maybe is more difficult. Variation of depth creates PAR challenges.
- Cleaning a deep tank is no fun if you cant reach the bottom. Make sure you can reach to bottom of the back of the tank.
- Flow may be a challenge at depth. Gonna want Vortech ($$$) if you don't want to see the long wires going all the way to the bottom.
- More light shading from stacking rocks and corals growing.
- less surface area means your tank can house less amount of coral and than wide tank.
 
Well...I'm in the mood for a list. :)


- Takes up more space in your home
- More evaporation: more humidity in the air and have a larger ATO or more frequent refills.
- Burning through more RODI filters with all that ATO refillage! LOL (minor con)
- More lighting Required to cover your tank ($$$$)
- More substrate to clean, or areas detritus to syphon.
- Food gets lost/ wasted easier. More feeding may be required as fish and other livestock are more dispersed.
Nice list :D

Evap/Humidity/ATO/RODI... All could be addressed with a glass top, sealed canopy, etc. No, I don't like 'em, I'm a screen top guy, but if you're really worried about it...

More lighting cost, I'd disagree. Shallow depth means less intense fixtures work fine. Large, shallow tanks lend themselves to T5 lighting, one of the more affordable options available.

More substrate? Bare Bottom.

More food? Not sure where this one comes from... Fish searching the same volume of water, regardless of dimensions, shouldn't make a difference.
 
I vote wider. Deeper is good too, but eventually it gets painful (to work on). My build is using 120 x 36 x 30, but I wish I had went 48 or 60 wide. My next tank will be wide, lol.

Depending on the installation location, a walk platform becomes more important once you go wider than 24-36" as you have to lean over the tank to reach the center.

Dennis
 
Looking to replace my 6ft 180g 24in Tall DT due to a very very small drip coming off the bottom seal where sometimes it will drip 8ozs in a day.... but most days no drip whatsoever.

Nonetheless, looking to upgrade to a NEW TANK

I have the room and the equipment to go as much as 8ft wide (max). Also willing for it to be a deeper tank if I see a clear advantage

QUESTION

Better to go W I D E R ?

or

Better to go T A L L E R ?

Looking for advantages / disadvantages of either wider or taller dimension


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I actually had my latest tank designed a little shorter (2”) and ALOT wider (10”). Easier to clean, easier to light evenly and more room for corals. Works out to be a 60” 160 gal instead of 150 gal
 
Now here is a question to pair with the original question.

How tall is too short? What's the minimum depth you would make a tank? At what point does a tank become not tall ENOUGH for fish/coarls/aquascape.

I'm a fan of wider tanks over tall tanks with my next build being 72"x30"x18" but the downside is I'll only have roughly 16" of water column and less so when considering a sand bend. I'm questioning it so much so that I'm considering just going to a standard 180gal tank. Ideally I'd go with a 72"x30"x24" tank but due to budget constraints, that's not in the picture right now.
 
I'm a fan of wide over depth. I'm also a huge fan of the shallow "lagoon" look. I think my next tank is going to be 60x24x18-20"
 
Now here is a question to pair with the original question.

How tall is too short? What's the minimum depth you would make a tank? At what point does a tank become not tall ENOUGH for fish/coarls/aquascape.

I'm a fan of wider tanks over tall tanks with my next build being 72"x30"x18" but the downside is I'll only have roughly 16" of water column and less so when considering a sand bend. I'm questioning it so much so that I'm considering just going to a standard 180gal tank. Ideally I'd go with a 72"x30"x24" tank but due to budget constraints, that's not in the picture right now.
I am in the same boat as you are.
Budget constraints prevented me from going off the deep end with my tank purchase. I ended up getting a 60x24x24 and I think it’s still a great size. In my experiences, 24” high is ideal. I’m average size and I am able to get my arms to the bottom of the tank with no problems.
 
Mine is 84x24x24.
Im thinking of getting a fish mainly tank too. Live rocks covered with giant shaggy carpet mushrooms for movement and maybe just a few large softies. If I do decide to do it I'm going to go deep. Probably 36".
The reason being with just softies that stay put, and bare bottom with lots of rock evlavated a bit off the bottom with plenty of flow on the bottom with hidden circulation pumps to stir up detritus every few hours.
24" height tanks are great for the ease of coral tank maintance, but most of the tanks I see have medium to large tangs, and other larger fish that messes up the scale of the tank. No matter how long the tank is, the limited 24" height just doesn't look natural being so far off scale.
If you keep a 24" tank to just smaller fish with your corals then you can pull off a more natural look.
 
when I stick my face in the tank with swimming goggles, my clowns kiss my cheeks. So Sweet.
 

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