Please help me asap

[Davee]

I have bought 2 clownfish, it's been 5 days since i bought it on the 2nd day the other one started following the other clown it looks like their shaking i thought they were only playing but on the 3rd day the clown that is being chased is now breathing heavy, and also the other clown started breathing heavy too also on the 4th day now they are both breathing heavy and staying on one spot, the other clown looks pale and i try feeding them but they wont eat

My tank salinity is good
I dont have test kit
And the water on my tank came from the ocean

I hope someone could help me
Need answers asap

 

[doubleshot00]

What does there skin look like?

 

[Davee]

The other one looks pale

 

[Sharkbait19]

How long has the tank been set up? Looks pretty new.

 

[Davee]

How long has the tank been set up? Looks pretty new.

Its been 5 days now i use natural sea water

 

[Davee]

How long has the tank been set up? Looks pretty new.

Can you help me sir do you have any instagram acc so i can message you sir

 

[Sharkbait19]

Its been 5 days now i use natural sea water

Didn’t you say that you bought the clowns 5 days ago? And the tank is also 5 days old? That is extremely early to be adding fish in any case. There is likely so much die off from the rocks and not enough bacteria to stabilize the ammonia. It needs to cycle before fish are added. Could you post more pics? If the skin is extremely pale and looks like it is sloughing off, this is a sign of brooklynella disease, which certainly can enter a tank through natural seawater and media.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Can you help me sir do you have any instagram acc so i can message you sir

You can always DM me on Reef2Reef if you need specific advice, but in this case starting a thread like this one will get you the fastest help.

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

The tank needs more rock, there is not much surface area for the nitrifying bacteria that supports life, probably need more flow too.

Is there any kind of filtration being used? Are you topping off with fresh water every day?

without test kits, there is no way of knowing if the water is suitable for fish.

 

[Davee]

The tank needs more rock, there is not much surface area for the nitrifying bacteria that supports life, probably need more flow too.

Is there any kind of filtration being used? Are you topping off with fresh water every day?

without test kits, there is no way of knowing if the water is suitable for fish.

I use hang on back filter sir, yes i am topping it with fresh water i make an diy ato, im gonna be buying some liverocks later that is cycled from other tank, do you think my fish can survive sir?

 

[Sharkbait19]

At this stage, lots of water changes are going to be important. Dose prime.

More closeup pictures and a video could also help us rule out whether they are dying from water quality issues or from disease, though I’m leaning towards ammonia poisoning as the main cause.

 

[Davee]

At this stage, lots of water changes are going to be important. Dose prime.

More closeup pictures and a video could also help us rule out whether they are dying from water quality issues or from disease, though I’m leaning towards ammonia poisoning as the main cause.

At this stage, lots of water changes are going to be important. Dose prime.

More closeup pictures and a video could also help us rule out whether they are dying from water quality issues or from disease, though I’m leaning towards ammonia poisoning as the main cause.

That's the link sir you can watch the video there

 

[Lbrdsoxfan]

Lets start with the water, did you actually get it from the ocean yourself, or is this 'boxed' ocean water. I'd be frightened of either or.

Second, have you checked for ammonia? As said above that's a BIG deal. It sounds like you didn't cycle the tank first and dumped those clownfish in. If so thats a big nono, and you need to get some salt and good clean water (rodi) not tap and do some regular water changes. Get a ammonia testing kit, or better yet a basic reef testing kit and a salinity checker. I normally wouldn't suggest API brand but its better than nothing.

There are some here that can help in more detail, but we need more detail on how to help you.

 

[Davee]

Lets start with the water, did you actually get it from the ocean yourself, or is this 'boxed' ocean water. I'd be frightened of either or.

Second, have you checked for ammonia? As said above that's a BIG deal. It sounds like you didn't cycle the tank first and dumped those clownfish in. If so thats a big nono, and you need to get some salt and good clean water (rodi) not tap and do some regular water changes. Get a ammonia testing kit, or better yet a basic reef testing kit and a salinity checker. I normally wouldn't suggest API brand but its better than nothing.

There are some here that can help in more detail, but we need more detail on how to help you.

The water is natural sea water the seller get it from the ocean, the water and the fish came from 1 seller only he said i can instantly put the fish after acclimating it for 1 hour and wait for the water to be clear, i have hydrometer for salinity but i dont have test kit

 

[Anemone_Fanatic]

Okay, so I believe that the problem here is that the tank is not cycled. There is no beneficial bacteria in the open water, it is all on the rock and filter material. In other words, the ocean water does nothing to help the tank or fish. Also, depending on where the water was collected, it could be polluted or toxic. The tank needs to have no ammonia and no nitrite before fish can be added. You need a test kit in order to be able to determine these parameters. If I were you, I'd return the fish to your LFS, and wait for the tank to be cycled fully in about a month before bringing them back. It is possible to do a fish-in cycle, but it causes unneeded stress to the fish and can pose significant harm to them, and even kill them if it isn't carefully done. I hope that this helps, and that your reefing journey is successful!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Tank is too new and likely provides low level oxygen based on the type of filtration and lack of water movement. I can imagine both ammonia and nitrate are elevated and in all honesty, tank would make a good Quarantine tank but too basic for a display tank not to say its impossible. You will want to add an airstone for added circulation and oxygen and consider a hang on protein skimmer such as iceCap K1-50. A canister which im not a fan of will do much better for you than a basic hang on power filter which has little flow-carbon-surface area for waste.

IF you cycled, how long did you cycle and what test kits are you using to monitor water quality. Have you added liquid bacteria to the tank to help develop denitrifying bacteria?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Okay, so I believe that the problem here is that the tank is not cycled. There is no beneficial bacteria in the open water, it is all on the rock and filter material. In other words, the ocean water does nothing to help the tank or fish. Also, depending on where the water was collected, it could be polluted or toxic. The tank needs to have no ammonia and no nitrite before fish can be added. You need a test kit in order to be able to determine these parameters. If I were you, I'd return the fish to your LFS, and wait for the tank to be cycled fully in about a month before bringing them back. It is possible to do a fish-in cycle, but it causes unneeded stress to the fish and can pose significant harm to them, and even kill them if it isn't carefully done. I hope that this helps, and that your reefing journey is successful!

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[kiran]

The water is natural sea water the seller get it from the ocean, the water and the fish came from 1 seller only he said i can instantly put the fish after acclimating it for 1 hour and wait for the water to be clear, i have hydrometer for salinity but i dont have test kit

I'd get a test kit. Even an API since it's better than nothing.

It sounds like the guy you're purchasing this stuff from doesn't have yours or your animals best interest in mind. I would ask questions here about anything that crosses your mind before making anymore decisions. If you can, try and return the clowns back to the seller. Wait a few weeks before thinking about adding a fish. Your tank looks kind of small so I don't know if it can support anything other than 1 tiny clown.

As for your tank, as others said, it's too new to be adding fish or any livestock. After a week I'd probably throw in a couple inverts but that's about it. Get more rocks and an air stone to get the water moving a little.

Patience is key in this hobby. I learned that the hard way, so don't beat yourself up. As long as you learn from it and start doing some research you'll be fine moving forward.

 

[fishmonkey]

Am I the only one who thinks damsels are far hardier than clowns?

 

[REEFER-RICK]

you can only add NSW after your tank has cycled not 5 days way to soon your clowns are toast sorry