Please help me with my S&S Puffer - possible ich?

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Hello,

I have a juvenile stars and stripes puffer, I got him back in December when he was less than an inch, he's now just under 3 inches. I kept him quarantined (not medicated) until the past month. During this time, he showed no symptoms of any disease, he ate great and was very active. I am in the process of setting up a 220g for him (already have the tank, stand, pumps, sump, etc, just haven't filled it yet - covid slowed me down) and recently moved him to a 40g system so he had more space in the mean time, here's my mistake.. I bought some live rock from my LFS and put it into the 40g system, did a quick 4 day cycle with ammonia chloride, a bottle of biospira and dosed with Pristine and Stability, I also put all of the cycled media from his qt in there with him (I wasn't medicating, so I kept some rocks with him).. It was fully cycled, nitrate present, 0 ammonia/nitrite.

The LR i purchased must have had ich on it, because after about 2-3 weeks I noticed spots on his fins.. He started flashing and scratching on rocks as of last Friday. I do not want to treat with copper, bc he's a puffer and TTM seems like soo much work and I don't have an extra tank on hand for this. To help him, I decided to go hypo in his current system (which yes, does have rocks and sand). I know the possible impacts that some ich may go dormant in the sand live on once I raise the salinity, but I want to get him healthy again..

Over the past 24 hours, I have lowered the salinity to 1.015 from 1.025 by doing 2-5g water changes (I know i need to get it to 1.008 - 1.010). I wait at least 4 hours between changes to do it slowly.. Well, he's becoming very lethargic, wedging himself into rocks and not swimming about. He also has a few scratches on him from flashing..

Attached are a couple recent pics.. I got him to come out by enticing him with some food (i always soak food in Vitachem, Selcon and brightwell amino acids..this time I also added some kent marine garlic extract), then he went back to the rocks after eating a piece. Can someone please confirm that this is ich and not something else?

On hand, I have a 20g long tank that is cycled and could move him to.. I also have cupramine, Safety Stop rapid quarantine (formalin and methylene blue) and various other meds - prazipro, maracyn, metroplex, kanaplex, focus and general cure.. Am I doing the right thing by going hypo and treating for ich or is this something else? Am I better off moving him back to QT and medicating with something? I do not have easy access to CP, but a different LFS does have it and may sell me some if it's what I need to do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated..
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I'm sure others will add but I would do a fresh water dip to eliminate or confirm Flukes. At the very least it could offer him some temporary relief if it is parasites.
 
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I'm sure others will add but I would do a fresh water dip to eliminate or confirm Flukes.

Thank you, I had no considered that this could be flukes.. I thought flukes would be bigger, but I guess some of his symptoms match.. I was trying to keep him in the tank to avoid stressing him out more, but seems like I don't have a choice.
 
Just to add to this.. he almost looks fuzzy? I wasn't sure if it was because him scratching on rocks or stuff getting stuck to him..
 
White fuzz?
 
Possibly Brook
 
Here's a post by @Humblefish about brook
 
Here's a post by @Humblefish about brook

Thanks! Luckily, in my non-expert opinion, I really don't think it's brook. From my what I can tell, brook looks like the fish was tossed in flour, my guy looks like he has specs on him.. I think the fuzziness is a bad description on my part and I think it's just from a thin slime coat and flashing or getting detritus/sand stuck to him.
 
If this was my puffer. I'd do a fw dip & start ttm (tank transfer method). It looks well fed & they usually bounce back quick. Just do it gently so it doesnt get startled & inflate.

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