Please help!! What’s wrong with blue moon chalice?

[bj274]

This started as a small spot in the middle maybe 2 weeks ago?

 

[CWalters]

Are your phosphates high?

 

[bj274]

Are your phosphates high?

.01 per Hannah

 

[bj274]

I have also had this brown spot on this favite for a good while now

 

[c4haskett]

Phosphate too low. Chalices like a little phosphate. I've noticed this happened to mine during sudden phosphate drop.

 

[bj274]

I can’t seem to keep my nitrate and phosphates up?

 

[c4haskett]

Brightwell has both nitrate and phosphate additives you can dose. You can feed more food to the tank. Some even limit the time their skimmer is on. There are several ways to increase nutrients in your tank.

 

[Timfish]

Ditto, your PO4 is low. FWIW .03 mg/l is the threshold level to prevent phosphorus limitation in corals, identified by researchers at Southampton University in England using corals maintained in an aquarium for about a decade. .3 mg/l is what corals are subjected to with upwelling in the ocean. .5 mg/l is acceptable as acros have been shown to incease growth up to this level. .9mg/l is the level teh Steinhart Aqaurium's ex situ sexually reproduced acro colonies are being grwon out with. Rich Ross's (who's part of the team at Steinhart) has his acro dominate mixed reef sitting at 1.8 mg/l, his tank can be seen at the beginning of his MACNA presentation on phosphate.

Best way to raise PO4 is to feed your fish more. Fish poop provides N, P and carbonates cor corals

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

IME, chalice is a bit finicky about changing parameters, especially alk. Is your tank stable? Do parameters remains constant?

 

[bj274]

I feel like I’m way over feeding already trying to raise them but all that has done is get them off zero.
I only have 2 fish(6 line and bi color blenny) in a 13.5 evo so far, I have been planning to get some more, just haven’t made the trip yet. That should help?
Also need to start dosing?
Im dosing AFR and have had to cut it back from what I was. It was staying exactly the same then started rising a little bit at a time?

 

[bj274]

IME, chalice is a bit finicky about changing parameters, especially alk. Is your tank stable? Do parameters remains constant?

It’s stable, dosing A4R .

Biggest problem I have is the water level staying consistent as filter gets dirty and flow changes. Seems to be hard to get the ATO dialed since the chamber levels also change due to that.
So it will add fresh water more than I like as filter slows water flow as water enters first chamber and the pump in last chamber must pump slightly faster than it enters. So at times the salinity will go from 1.025 to 1.024

 

[bj274]

It’s stable, dosing A4R .

Biggest problem I have is the water level staying consistent as filter gets dirty and flow changes. Seems to be hard to get the ATO dialed since the chamber levels also change due to that.
So it will add fresh water more than I like as filter slows water flow as water enters first chamber and the pump in last chamber must pump slightly faster than it enters. So at times the salinity will go from 1.025 to 1.024

I have modified my intake to accommodate a filter sock to give much more filter surface area. This has helped a lot but still not perfect. I’m picky. LOL

 

[c4haskett]

I feel like I’m way over feeding already trying to raise them but all that has done is get them off zero.
I only have 2 fish(6 line and bi color blenny) in a 13.5 evo so far, I have been planning to get some more, just haven’t made the trip yet. That should help?
Also need to start dosing?
Im dosing AFR and have had to cut it back from what I was. It was staying exactly the same then started rising a little bit at a time?

I just set up an evo and I love it. Check out some of my chalices.

 

[c4haskett]

It’s stable, dosing A4R .

Biggest problem I have is the water level staying consistent as filter gets dirty and flow changes. Seems to be hard to get the ATO dialed since the chamber levels also change due to that.
So it will add fresh water more than I like as filter slows water flow as water enters first chamber and the pump in last chamber must pump slightly faster than it enters. So at times the salinity will go from 1.025 to 1.024

I had that problem too. Only use filter floss and I change mine daily or every two days. My salinity dropped from 1.025 to 1.018 a few weeks ago. Luckily everything recovered well after I slowly raised it back up.

 

[bj274]

I just set up an evo and I love it. Check out some of my chalices.

Nice… I also have a Hollywood stunner that is doing fine, but it doesn’t have the bright green all the way across it like it did when I got it

 

[c4haskett]

You will get some color back once nutrients are raised. Also specific to hollywood stunner, they really like light. Most chalices not so much. I've seen stunners at the top of the tank almost breaching the water line, that are thriving. You could try moving it up some and see if you have any changes. Be careful though, Hollywoods are known to have some brutally long stingers. I've seen mine have sweepers up to about 6 inches.

 

[bj274]

I had that problem too. Only use filter floss and I change mine daily or every two days. My salinity dropped from 1.025 to 1.018 a few weeks ago. Luckily everything recovered well after I slowly raised it back up.

Did you see my filter sock mod above? You can get away with changing once a week, but twice would probably be ideal. Then just wash and reuse

You will get some color back once nutrients are raised. Also specific to hollywood stunner, they really like light. Most chalices not so much. I've seen stunners at the top of the tank almost breaching the water line, that are thriving. You could try moving it up some and see if you have any changes. Be careful though, Hollywoods are known to have some brutally long stingers. I've seen mine have sweepers up to about 6 inches.

thanks, I thought they didn’t want much light. It’s sitting at about 50 par, if I move it out the least I could do would be mid 100’s. Is that too much?

 

[bj274]

So I have also been dosing micro bacteria 7 and micro clean.
After reading up on microclean again, it looks like it lowers nitrates and phosphates ??

 

[c4haskett]

Did you see my filter sock mod above? You can get away with changing once a week, but twice would probably be ideal. Then just wash and reuse

thanks, I thought they didn’t want much light. It’s sitting at about 50 par, if I move it out the least I could do would be mid 100’s. Is that too much?

Yeah, I have a media basket in first chamber of mine though. Fuge in 2nd. I think that hollywood will be more than fine in that amount of par. I had mine, in my last tank all the way near the top at around 200 par and it grew like a weed. Funny, Im also dosing both of those as well. People have said the clean is a lot more agressive at reducing nutrients. Mabe just stop dosing the clean for a week or so and check nutrients again. Mb7 should be fine. I dose half a cap daily of each and my nitrates are around 25 and my phosphates go anywhere from .03-.50. I temporarily went from an 80 gallon down to this and im not used to how hard the stability is in these small tanks. So my nutrients fluctuate a lot. My Alk, Calc and Mag have stayed consistent though.

 

[bj274]

Yeah, I have a media basket in first chamber of mine though. Fuge in 2nd. I think that hollywood will be more than fine in that amount of par. I had mine, in my last tank all the way near the top at around 200 par and it grew like a weed. Funny, Im also dosing both of those as well. People have said the clean is a lot more agressive at reducing nutrients. Mabe just stop dosing the clean for a week or so and check nutrients again. Mb7 should be fine. I dose half a cap daily of each and my nitrates are around 25 and my phosphates go anywhere from .03-.50. I temporarily went from an 80 gallon down to this and im not used to how hard the stability is in these small tanks. So my nutrients fluctuate a lot. My Alk, Calc and Mag have stayed consistent though.

Here’s my light setup.