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[LAReefer4Life]

Can someone confirm if this is Lympho or do the fish need to be QT'd again for something else entirely?

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[MnFish1]

Can someone confirm if this is Lympho or do the fish need to be QT'd again for something else entirely?

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Can you give some more information - what kind of QT, Etc? In any case Lymphocytes is viral - usually on the fin edges but can also be on the body. So - I would not say it's out of the question.

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Can you give some more information - what kind of QT, Etc? In any case Lymphocytes is viral - usually on the fin edges but can also be on the body. So - I would not say it's out of the question.

Yes, I QT'd in copper for 34 days with copper power at 2.6 therapeutic levels. Followed by 2 rounds of Prazipro 8 days apart. Then I conducted 5 days of Ruby Reef Rally dips into sterilize aquarium each time. Finally, I did a 60 minute formalin bath at 0.6ml before transferring to display.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can someone confirm if this is Lympho or do the fish need to be QT'd again for something else entirely?

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These are the videos I like to see. Nice looking clowns
What you see is mucus buildup associated with brooklynella and Yes, you will want to maove to quarantine. The most significant sign is the amount of slime on its body. The thick mucus on its body is a second sign which is noticeable on the fish. This mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Typical treatment is a formalin solution is mixed with in a separate container with either fresh or saltwater. Start with a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration then performing treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin base at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

 

[LAReefer4Life]

These are the videos I like to see. Nice looking clowns
What you see is mucus buildup associated with brooklynella and Yes, you will want to maove to quarantine. The most significant sign is the amount of slime on its body. The thick mucus on its body is a second sign which is noticeable on the fish. This mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Typical treatment is a formalin solution is mixed with in a separate container with either fresh or saltwater. Start with a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration then performing treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin base at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

Thanks @vetteguy53081

I don't see any slime on them????

QT'd as follows:

- Copper Power for 34 days at 2.5-2.7 of therapeutic levels.

- Followed by 2 rounds of Prazipro 8 days apart.

- Then I conducted 5 days of Ruby Reef Rally dips every 24-36 hours and placed into sterilize aquarium each time.

- Finally, I completed a 60 minute formalin bath at 0.6ml followed by another 90 minute rally before transferring to my display.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Thanks @vetteguy53081

I don't see any slime on them????

QT'd as follows:

- Copper Power for 34 days at 2.5-2.7 of therapeutic levels.

- Followed by 2 rounds of Prazipro 8 days apart.

- Then I conducted 5 days of Ruby Reef Rally dips every 24-36 hours and placed into sterilize aquarium each time.

- Finally, I completed a 60 minute formalin bath at 0.6ml followed by another 90 minute rally before transferring to my display.

With all the regimens you listed- it should have No mucus on face but especially with wild caught clowns, they can

 

[LAReefer4Life]

With all the regimens you listed- it should have No mucus on face but especially with wild caught clowns, they can

They can??? Are you 100% its not Lympho?

 

[vetteguy53081]

They can??? Are you 100% its not Lympho?

Rarely if ever will you see lympho on the face or body and not on any finnage. If it gets to body, its generally spread from that on the fins which is absent

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Can someone confirm if this is Lympho or do the fish need to be QT'd again for something else entirely?

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IMO - this isn't Brooklynella, the spots are too discrete, Brook is more diffuse/spread out.

I can't rule out Lymphocystis, but that is a bit unusual in clowns and it usually is on the fins, not the body.

How long have these fish been in the smaller container? Could it have scraped itself on the cut edges of the container? (i.e. - did the spots show up after the fish were moved in there or before?)



Jay

 

[LAReefer4Life]

IMO - this isn't Brooklynella, the spots are too discrete, Brook is more diffuse/spread out.

I can't rule out Lymphocystis, but that is a bit unusual in clowns and it usually is on the fins, not the body.

How long have these fish been in the smaller container? Could it have scraped itself on the cut edges of the container? (i.e. - did the spots show up after the fish were moved in there or before?)



Jay

Thanks @Jay Hemdal

These cauliflower growths started on the top and bottom fin and have been on the fish for over a month in QT. I was pretty confident it was Lympho because after conducting 5 Ruby Rally baths every day and a final formalin bath before adding to display, the growths were still present after each bath. My understanding is, if it was brook the baths would have eliminate the white mucus on the body at least temporarily afterwards.

I put the fish through Ruby reef rally bath in transit to the QT followed by 34 days copper inconjuction with metro every 48 hours the entire period since they are wild caught. Then 2 x Prazipro 8 days apart, followed by 5 days of RRR baths into sterile environment and then formalin bath for 1 hour as a safety measure.

The picture below shows the one left on bottom fin, there was a large on on the top fin too but that when slowly improved while in QT.

 

[MnFish1]

There are numerous pictures on the internet with similar lesions that are 'lymphocystis' - which is an iridovirus. Though usually on the fins - it can also infect wounds directly on the skin - which I would guess is what you're seeing. There are other viral diseases and multiple types of iridovirus that may have a predilection to the skin vs fins, etc etc. Hope this helps - as others have said they are beautiful clowns.

 

[LAReefer4Life]

There are numerous pictures on the internet with similar lesions that are 'lymphocystis' - which is an iridovirus. Though usually on the fins - it can also infect wounds directly on the skin - which I would guess is what you're seeing. There are other viral diseases and multiple types of iridovirus that may have a predilection to the skin vs fins, etc etc. Hope this helps - as others have said they are beautiful clowns.

Thanks @MnFish1