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I just purchase my first tank with sump .It is a 24x24x20 50g reef cube. I tried to do some research but im stuck at the "Head Pressure" part i get lost there.My tank is in my bedroom so i want it as quiet as possible, obiusly i know it wont be silent but the quietter the better.After the research that i did i am leaning towards tunze 1073.05 or Eheim 1260.My tank is 20" tall and my stand is 30" tall would either of these pumps be good or do you recommend others ?? thanks
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Yeah I'm willing to pay the extra buck for some good pumps.But do the GPH look like they are about right for the height of my tank and all that ???
 
Many will recommend a 3 to 5x display tank turnover for your display tank, in your case thats 150 to 250 GPH at say 4 feet of headloss. I am familiar with the Eheim 1260 and it may be a little strong but you can always install a valve on the discharge side of the pump and throttle the return flow. I lean towards 5-7x the display volume depending on your sump size, baffle placement and the velocity through the sump before you encounter microbubble problems or an inefficient skimmer due to lack of detention time to do its work. If your sump is a 20G or larger you may be OK, if its smaller the velocity through the sump will be tremendous since it is only going to realistically hold about half its volume since you need to keep the level low enouigh for the skimmer and to maintain room for backflow in a power outage. 250+ GPH in a sump with 6-8 gallons of water is pretty fast versus 250 GPH in a sump containing 15-20 gallons of actual water.
You also need to match the return pump and overflow, either internal or hang on back so you don't outrun the overflow or starve it at the other extreme.

If the overflow and sump are sufficient I would recommend the Eheim, an OceanRunner 2500, Octopus of similar size or my new favorite for the last year has been the Water Blaster pumps by Octopus. Extremely quiet, very energy efficient and move gobs of water for the watts consumed versus most other pumps. A flow of say 250-350 GPH at 4 feet would be a good point on the pump curve to look for and compare the power consumption of whatever you are looking at to others, some like the Eheim and Water Blaster will cost a little more initially but will return it in power savings 24/7/365 and in their quality and long lifespan.
 
Many will recommend a 3 to 5x display tank turnover for your display tank, in your case thats 150 to 250 GPH at say 4 feet of headloss. I am familiar with the Eheim 1260 and it may be a little strong but you can always install a valve on the discharge side of the pump and throttle the return flow. I lean towards 5-7x the display volume depending on your sump size, baffle placement and the velocity through the sump before you encounter microbubble problems or an inefficient skimmer due to lack of detention time to do its work. If your sump is a 20G or larger you may be OK, if its smaller the velocity through the sump will be tremendous since it is only going to realistically hold about half its volume since you need to keep the level low enouigh for the skimmer and to maintain room for backflow in a power outage. 250+ GPH in a sump with 6-8 gallons of water is pretty fast versus 250 GPH in a sump containing 15-20 gallons of actual water.
You also need to match the return pump and overflow, either internal or hang on back so you don't outrun the overflow or starve it at the other extreme.

If the overflow and sump are sufficient I would recommend the Eheim, an OceanRunner 2500, Octopus of similar size or my new favorite for the last year has been the Water Blaster pumps by Octopus. Extremely quiet, very energy efficient and move gobs of water for the watts consumed versus most other pumps. A flow of say 250-350 GPH at 4 feet would be a good point on the pump curve to look for and compare the power consumption of whatever you are looking at to others, some like the Eheim and Water Blaster will cost a little more initially but will return it in power savings 24/7/365 and in their quality and long lifespan.

I was leaning towards the tunze because you can adjust the flow and it was low power consumption but I didn't think it would be strong enough since I had been told that I neede min 10x tank volume turn over . So if I only need 5x turn over + 4ft head pressure I'm guessing it should be fine right ?? I believe my sump is like 20 gallons :))
 
10x turnover through the return is a lot for a small sump. You want the flow in a sump to be lower for several reasons, a few of which are it allows your protein skimmer to work more efficiently and it allows detritus to settle out where it can be vacuumed or siphoned out easily. It also reduces the likelyhood of carrying microbubbles back to the display. If the sump is a 20G then you will probably have 10-12 gallons in it during operation, 10x the display or 500 GPH would be 40-50 times an hour through the sump or a very short period of time for the skimmer to work, just over a minute, and bubbles could be a problem in the display even with good baffles.
 

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