Possible Dino? H202 Dosing

[Kenneth's Tropical Fish]

Hello everyone I need help battling what I believe to be Dino or a Bacterial bloom. Ive been using the red sea care program and Ive been dosing my max-170 with Foundation A,B,C with Nopox and Trace Elements A,B,C,D and using Reef Nutrition A & B. Anyways I first got Cyano breakout that I treated with Chemi-Clean and it went away then came back and treated a second time. After that second time I started to get what appears link dino all along my back wall and on the rocks and substrate. I say appears because it lacks the imfamous bubbles. In the pictures below one of them does seem to have bubbles but after blasting with baster I think its trapped bubbles. Ive done some research and also found out people have been getting bacteria blooms from overdosing Nopox so Ive since stopped using it. Looking at using H202 since I read on r2r someone had success with it. Im afriad of killing anything any would like some assurance or warning not to use it. Ive recently just installed a chateo reactor as well so I dont wanna kill my chateo. I have a mixed reef with acros and monti, lords, mushrooms, gsp and torch. PH last tested was 8.1, alk at 11 and ammonia at 0, nitrite at 0, nitrate at 1ppm and phospates at 0.01, salinity 1.027. Any help would be appreciated. Also I have a RO/DI from BRS with 15% water change weekly religiously.

 

[wesman42]

To me that does look like Dinos, yes. I'd recommend getting started here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellates-–-are-you-tired-of-battling-altogether.293318/

Read the first page, and I'd try to get an ID on the type you have. I can't tell in the last picture if that is algae that the dinos are attached to, or if that's all the same substance. If it is, then it's substantial.

I'd start by raising your nutrients. Again, it will take a lot of time to read into this...but it's well worth it.

H2O2 many have found to be a band-aid, myself included. They will almost always return from dosing (depending on the type).

 

[Kenneth's Tropical Fish]

To me that does look like Dinos, yes. I'd recommend getting started here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellates-–-are-you-tired-of-battling-altogether.293318/

Read the first page, and I'd try to get an ID on the type you have. I can't tell in the last picture if that is algae that the dinos are attached to, or if that's all the same substance. If it is, then it's substantial.

I'd start by raising your nutrients. Again, it will take a lot of time to read into this...but it's well worth it.

H2O2 many have found to be a band-aid, myself included. They will almost always return from dosing (depending on the type).

Thanks for the response will give that thread a good read. Is it possible to dose h202 short term becuase it seems to be sufficating my sps frags. When you mean increase my nutrients do you mean feed more?

 

[wesman42]

Thanks for the response will give that thread a good read. Is it possible to dose h202 short term becuase it seems to be sufficating my sps frags. When you mean increase my nutrients do you mean feed more?

I guess so in the proper dose...but it really will not do much to help when they come back with a vengeance. You will want to raise your Phosphates and Nitrates to acceptable levels.

 

[dwest]

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Thanks for the response will give that thread a good read. Is it possible to dose h202 short term becuase it seems to be sufficating my sps frags. When you mean increase my nutrients do you mean feed more?

Increase nitrates with sodium nitrate from amazon and increase phosphates with flourish phosphorous. Much more on the thread! Good luck!

 

[dwest]

I guess so in the proper dose...but it really will not do much to help when they come back with a vengeance. You will want to raise your Phosphates and Nitrates to acceptable levels.

It’s possible you just have cyano and GHA, so ID them first IMO.

 

[mcarroll]

Thanks for the response will give that thread a good read. Is it possible to dose h202 short term becuase it seems to be sufficating my sps frags. When you mean increase my nutrients do you mean feed more?

The best short-term thing you can do is run activated carbon and dose phosphates. There's more, so DO read that thread...but doing those things will stop the deterioration.

Stop running any kind of carbon source (nobox, amino's, etc)

 

[Kenneth's Tropical Fish]

The best short-term thing you can do is run activated carbon and dose phosphates. There's more, so DO read that thread...but doing those things will stop the deterioration.

Stop running any kind of carbon source (nobox, amino's, etc)

Is Red Sea Reef Energy carbon based?

 

[mcarroll]

I don't know so I had to Google it. But it looks like the answer is yes.

 

[dwest]

The best short-term thing you can do is run activated carbon and dose phosphates. There's more, so DO read that thread...but doing those things will stop the deterioration.

Stop running any kind of carbon source (nobox, amino's, etc)

Agree. Get GAC going if you don’t already. Once you ID them you can decide if UV will be a help or not, in addition to nutrients as mcarroll mentioned.