Possible HLLE, and would ROX 0.8 cause this?

[SashimiTurtle]

I have had a chocolate tang for about a week now. The fish appears healthy, is active, eats well and would otherwise have nothing wrong with it except it has developed white ich like bumps down the lateral line on its left side only. I do not believe this is ich, as they are precisely placed on the lateral line. I have two other tangs in the tank, a tomini and desjardini, neither with symptoms.

Is this HLLE, or possibly some viral or maybe a secondary bacterial infection from HLLE? I'm removing carbon now, I do not believe I need it anymore and will just run GFO from now on.

Left side with the bumps

Right side clear of any bumps

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Tough to see, but HLLE is erosive, and these seems additive, that is, they stick from the skin. Lateral lines have mucus pores that can produce extra mucus, from things like stress and skin irritation, but if these look like divots or pits, then it is HLLE.

Rox isn't well-known for causing HLLE, but it is probable that the cause was actually something that happened before you bough it - HLLE doesn't develop in a week like that. Three weeks in extreme cases was what I saw in my study.

Jay

 

[piranhaman00]

Selcon foods and will go away

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Tough to see, but HLLE is erosive, and these seems additive, that is, they stick from the skin. Lateral lines have mucus pores that can produce extra mucus, from things like stress and skin irritation, but if these look like divots or pits, then it is HLLE.

Rox isn't well-known for causing HLLE, but it is probable that the cause was actually something that happened before you bough it - HLLE doesn't develop in a week like that. Three weeks in extreme cases was what I saw in my study.

Jay

That's what I thought about HLLE, I've never seen bumps like that. Maybe it's just stress from acclimating to my tank. My tomini is a little aggressive but there is no constant fighting, just the occasional flare up. I'll get some vitamins to add to my LRS and they get nori daily.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Selcon foods and will go away

I have a clue what youre trying to state- Selcon foods will not make it go away. Proper diet and good water quality will contribute to restoring lateral line.

 

[vetteguy53081]

That's what I thought about HLLE, I've never seen bumps like that. Maybe it's just stress from acclimating to my tank. My tomini is a little aggressive but there is no constant fighting, just the occasional flare up. I'll get some vitamins to add to my LRS and they get nori daily.

I wholly agree with Jay not that I can say ive disagreed with him ever . . LOL
Assure good water quality as the tank it came from good have been the case with poor water quality and also enhance diet. This fish will have a good chance of recovery. My chocolate tang after 3 years is still shy but plump. Feed some foods such as :
-Spirulina brine shrimp
- LRS Herbivore diet
- mysis shrimp
- small plankton
- Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract
- Hikari Marine cuisine
- Formula 2 flake and frozen
- Hikari veggie marine

Add selcon vitamins to the foods 2-3X per week and on alternating days, garlic extract for stamina and immunity health

 

[Spare time]

If the carbon had a chance to tumble or grind then maybe. I tried rox once and put it in a reactor but some of it grinded up and my tang then got hlle. Not clue if it caused it or not. I fed food soaked in brightwell amino hufa and vitachem, used clear up and a fine sock, and something worked.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

I have a clue what youre trying to state- Selcon foods will not make it go away. Proper diet and good water quality will contribute to restoring lateral line.

Yes I understand selcon isn't a cure all also. It's just nutrition.

I feed and take care of my aquarium very well. It's a Reefer 750xxl so swimming room and territory isn't an issue either. They get TDO chroma boost pellets via auto feeder twice a day in the morning and at noon, TLF or LRS nori sheets on veggie clips daily, and I feed LRS Reef and or Fish Frenzy once or twice in the afternoon and evening.

I just tested my nutrients today and nitrates are at 0 and phosphates are 0.07. Ive been working on bringing them up but nitrate stays bottomed out. I'm running GFO to keep phosphate down while I try and raise nitrate. There is no algae in the display and my water is crystal clear. All other fish are healthy and active, as well as the chocolate tang. It just has those bumps directly on the lateral line.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes I understand selcon isn't a cure all also. It's just nutrition.

I feed and take care of my aquarium very well. It's a Reefer 750xxl so swimming room and territory isn't an issue either. They get TDO chroma boost pellets via auto feeder twice a day in the morning and at noon, TLF or LRS nori sheets on veggie clips daily, and I feed LRS Reef and or Fish Frenzy once or twice in the afternoon and evening.

I just tested my nutrients today and nitrates are at 0 and phosphates are 0.07. Ive been working on bringing them up but nitrate stays bottomed out. I'm running GFO to keep phosphate down while I try and raise nitrate. There is no algae in the display and my water is crystal clear. All other fish are healthy and active, as well as the chocolate tang. It just has those bumps directly on the lateral line.

Glad you further described. Seems you are prepared with diet and environment
What test kits are you using?

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Glad you further described. Seems you are prepared with diet and environment
What test kits are you using?

GHL P4 with its probes, Temp, Salinity, pH and ORP

GHL KH Director, not hooked up yet from the old tank.

Hanna Ca, Alk, High Range Nitrate, Low Range Phosphate

Salifert Ca, Mg, K, I₂ and pH