Possible Ich???

[Bryce Mazloum]

Hey everyone, I got some new clowns over the weekend and they've honestly been a joy to keep. However today when I got home from school I noticed some white spots on the edges of their fins, too small to even be picked up on camera, seriously the spots are smaller than sand particles I think.
Could this be ich? I'm worried because I just finished with the fallow period after another ich outbreak that happened about a month prior.
Any response helps greatly!

 

[NickC]

Do they look like this? These spots showed up on the edges of one of my ocellaris’s tail and pectoral fins 3 months after being introduced to the display. I treated this fish prophylactically with chloroquine phosphate in quarantine even. I think whatever he’s has came in on a shrimp.


Best picture I could get

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

Do they look like this? These spots showed up on the edges of one of my ocellaris’s tail and pectoral fins 3 months after being introduced to the display. I treated this fish prophylactically with chloroquine phosphate in quarantine even. I think whatever he’s has came in on a shrimp.


Best picture I could get

It might be, from what I can tell the spots are on most of the fins, they might be on the body as well but its hard to tell because well they're almost all white. But they have fat full bellies and they're active as can be.

 

[NickC]

This guys been active and had a full appetite ever since he started showing spots too. Been about a month now, no spots on the body though. They seem to stay on his fins.

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

This guys been active and had a full appetite ever since he started showing spots too. Been about a month now, no spots on the body though. They seem to stay on his fins.

Well that's good, but this definitely isn't the case for me, I just checked again and the Male has spots everywhere! Even on his face. Could it possibly be marine velvet?!

 

[Crabs McJones]

Well that's good, but this definitely isn't the case for me, I just checked again and the Male has spots everywhere! Even on his face. Could it possibly be marine velvet?!

Can you get a picture for us? Given the rate of infection velvet would be my guess unfortunately.

 

[NickC]

Yup that sounds more like velvet to me too.

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

I do have some videos posted on instagram @bryces_reef
you can take a look there and message me because honestly I have better access to that than this.

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

I do have some videos posted on instagram @bryces_reef
you can take a look there and message me because honestly I have better access to that than this.

@Crabs McJones and @NickC

 

[Dkeller_nc]

I don't do instagram, so I can't see the videos, but as an observation, you mentioned that you went through a fallow period in your reef, presumably because of an ich outbreak. So presumably you quarantined these fish, and if it's truly marine velvet, I'd have thought that it would've shown up in quarantine. That suggests that your fallow period for your reef tank might not have been long enough, and this is actually ich.

 

[Crabs McJones]

I don't do instagram, so I can't see the videos, but as an observation, you mentioned that you went through a fallow period in your reef, presumably because of an ich outbreak. So presumably you quarantined these fish, and if it's truly marine velvet, I'd have thought that it would've shown up in quarantine. That suggests that your fallow period for your reef tank might not have been long enough, and this is actually ich.

Same

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

I don't do instagram, so I can't see the videos, but as an observation, you mentioned that you went through a fallow period in your reef, presumably because of an ich outbreak. So presumably you quarantined these fish, and if it's truly marine velvet, I'd have thought that it would've shown up in quarantine. That suggests that your fallow period for your reef tank might not have been long enough, and this is actually ich.

Yup, but unfortunately I didn't quarantine as I don't have a tank for it, I mean my main tank is only 9 gallons and I'm limited for space. However I plan on setting one up if these fish don't recover on their own.
As for the fallow period yes it was for Ich, I could tell because there were clearly white spots, and the fish were flashing against the rocks and substrate. I again didn't quarantine and tried melafix and medicated food in the main tank, which I learned does more bad than good so I'm never doing it again. The two fish: a helfrichi firefish and a premium snowflake clownfish, consequently died, and after that I proceeded to crank up the temperature to 82 degrees and left the tank fallow for about two weeks, and now that I look back on it that most likely wasn't enough time.

 

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Cell phone pic?

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

Cell phone pic?

Managed to get a screenshot from one of the videos

 

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Thats a tough on one white bodies.
#Reefsquad

 

[Big G]

I proceeded to crank up the temperature to 82 degrees and left the tank fallow for about two weeks, and now that I look back on it that most likely wasn't enough time.

Fallow period for marine ich (Crypto) is 76 days.

The problem you face is that with clowns we immediately think Brooklynella, which early on can "present" just like velvet. Check these pics in the link:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/#post-2913287

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499399

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

Fallow period for marine ich (Crypto) is 76 days.

The problem you face is that with clowns we immediately think Brooklynella, which early on can "present" just like velvet. Check these pics in the link:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/#post-2913287

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499399

I don't think it's brook, my best guess is going to be ich since I was dealing with it before. But it could also be velvet.

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

Thats a tough on one white bodies.
#Reefsquad

tell me about it!

 

[Jon Fishman]

If you were going through it a month ago, then went fallow, and now have an issue........... how long was the fallow period? And you said you have no quarantine, so how did you go fallow?

 

[Bryce Mazloum]

If you were going through it a month ago, then went fallow, and now have an issue........... how long was the fallow period? And you said you have no quarantine, so how did you go fallow?

the fallow period was about 3 weeks, and I went fallow because both of the fish I had died to ich unfortunately.