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[Humblefish]

I would look at getting a bigger QT and getting everybody in it for treatment. Can we get some pictures of the other fish?

+1 Also list out all the fish which will require treatment, including their size.

 

[94Roarge]

Fish are: 1 forsters hawk, one misc dottyback, 4 domino damsels and a "toadfish" in the sump. I currently have a keyhole angel in the small QT I have, but my concern is such aggressive fish being put into small confines. I'll get some photos when I get home, but there are small spots on a microbubble scale mainly on the hawkfish. The dominos have probably about 10 dots over the 4 of them combined. The frog and dottyback are clear of dots.

 

[94Roarge]

Sizes are Hawk 4-5", dottyback 4", 4 domino damsels between 2" and 3", the frogfish is about 8"

 

[melypr1985]

Sizes are Hawk 4-5", dottyback 4", 4 domino damsels between 2" and 3", the frogfish is about 8"

I'd go for a 40 breeder if you can.

 

[Humblefish]

I'd go for a 40 breeder if you can.

^^ Agreed; and treat with copper for 30 days. Or CP if you can find it.

 

[94Roarge]

I'd go for a 40 breeder if you can.

What is a 40 breeder? And CP as in? Sorry, I don't know alot of terms for things yet, especially if they don't cross over to the Australian side of things [emoji14] thanks for the help though.

I went and got a 70L tank and some cupramine+copper test kit

^^ Agreed; and treat with copper for 30 days. Or CP if you can find it.

 

[melypr1985]

What is a 40 breeder? And CP as in? Sorry, I don't know alot of terms for things yet, especially if they don't cross over to the Australian side of things [emoji14] thanks for the help though.

I went and got a 70L tank and some cupramine+copper test kit

A 40 breeder is a 40 gallon tank that is shorter and wider than a regular 40 gallon tank. I dont know the conversion to liters but i'm sure ya'll have something that is comparable.
CP is Chloroquine Phosphate. Here in the states you have to have it prescribed by a vet and get it filled by a compounding pharmacy. There is an online pharmacy that has it and will fill the scrip for you... Diamondbackdrugs.com I believe.

Cupramine is a fine choice though. Be sure you have the correct test kit since the API one won't read low enough for cupramine.

 

[94Roarge]

A 40 breeder is a 40 gallon tank that is shorter and wider than a regular 40 gallon tank. I dont know the conversion to liters but i'm sure ya'll have something that is comparable.
CP is Chloroquine Phosphate. Here in the states you have to have it prescribed by a vet and get it filled by a compounding pharmacy. There is an online pharmacy that has it and will fill the scrip for you... Diamondbackdrugs.com I believe.

Cupramine is a fine choice though. Be sure you have the correct test kit since the API one won't read low enough for cupramine.

[emoji52] i got the AI one as it was the only available one. Great. The tank is a 20g tank, tanks here are expensive :/ i can split the fish into two tanks being the one with they keyhole?

 

[melypr1985]

[emoji52] i got the AI one as it was the only available one. Great. The tank is a 20g tank, tanks here are expensive :/ i can split the fish into two tanks being the one with they keyhole?

You could split them up, sure. That would mean double the equipment, however, so I would add up the cost between getting one tank big enough to house them all for a bit and getting two with all the equipment for each. See which one is more affordable for you.

 

[94Roarge]

I already have enough equipment and my smaller tank is already running with my new angel in it quarrantining as we speak. I have plenty of cycled biomedia lying around to switch into the new one, cost isn't an issue [emoji14]

 

[94Roarge]

Here's some photos!

The damsels were too fast to photograph [emoji14]

 

[94Roarge]

There seems to me like there is enough space for the fish in the newer tank, but before I go too far, am I right to say angels are sensitive to copper?

 

[melypr1985]

There seems to me like there is enough space for the fish in the newer tank, but before I go too far, am I right to say angels are sensitive to copper?

They can be. You'll want to raise the levels very slowly for an angel to be safe.

 

[94Roarge]

How exectly would I be doing that? A lesser dose upon completion and adding it in over a period of days?

 

[94Roarge]

They can be. You'll want to raise the levels very slowly for an angel to be safe.

I decided not to mix them at this point [emoji14]

 

[melypr1985]

How exectly would I be doing that? A lesser dose upon completion and adding it in over a period of days?

Yes. You would figure out the total dosage for your QT to get it to therapeutic levels and spread that over a 5-7 days. Test daily to be sure you are staying on track.

I decided not to mix them at this point [emoji14]

You aren't treating the angel in copper with the rest? Or you aren't going to mix copper and prazi?

 

[94Roarge]

Yes. You would figure out the total dosage for your QT to get it to therapeutic levels and spread that over a 5-7 days. Test daily to be sure you are staying on track.


You aren't treating the angel in copper with the rest? Or you aren't going to mix copper and prazi?

I'm not treating prazi yet. I decided to hold off moving and stressing the angel more than it needs. What is a therapudic level of copper?

 

[melypr1985]

I'm not treating prazi yet. I decided to hold off moving and stressing the angel more than it needs. What is a therapudic level of copper?

Cupramine is .5ppm

 

[94Roarge]

Ah alright, so the bottle's normal dose is the therapudic level, that's easy to work with

 

[94Roarge]

Oh also, I know that Ich has a 76 day minimum wait, are you agreeing with me that velvet looks appropriate and if so, what is the down time for it?