Dixie_reefer
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I didn't know you could do it like this! Has anyone tried it?
Propagating the Rose Bubble Tip Anemone - Bulk Reef Supply
Propagating the Rose Bubble Tip Anemone - Bulk Reef Supply
propagating nems?
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BroncosZOA
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Although it is possible to cut a bubble tip in half and have it survive. It is not a good thing when an anemone splits.
It is a response to a threat or change where the animals survival is more important. It raises the animals chance of survival by becoming two
It takes alot of energy for an anemone to split on its own and no animals uses that much energy just to propogate itself. Especially when they posses the ability to reproduce sexually.
Its actually a good sign if your bubbletips dont split.
Although it is possible to cut a bubble tip in half and have it survive. It is not a good thing when an anemone splits.
It is a response to a threat or change where the animals survival is more important. It raises the animals chance of survival by becoming two
It takes alot of energy for an anemone to split on its own and no animals uses that much energy just to propogate itself. Especially when they posses the ability to reproduce sexually.
Its actually a good sign if your bubbletips dont split.
Otter_rs
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There are actually many animals that reproduce asexually for self propagation even if there are no environmental stresses and sexual reproduction is an option, corals being the most obvious. Snails do it, plants do it, some sharks do it, some snakes do it. There are many advantages other than a last ditch effort in poor environmental conditions. Although, you are correct to say that stress is often the reason in captivity for anemones splitting, it is not always the case. In nature you will find huge areas of bubble tip anemones carpeting the ocean floor, all of which are clones from one individual, and all thriving. Do you really think that it only divided because it was stressed? The best reason for asexual reproduction is to utilize an available resource in order to pass on your genetic code. When an anemone gets to a certain size where it can no longer utilize food to grow bigger because of some size limitation, it splits so that two individuals can grow and use that resource instead of just being one individual not able to use an abundant resource. Now you have two sexually viable animals instead of just one.
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Trex
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Going to have to disagree -- have had several E. quadricolors split because conditions were ideal and they had the extra energy to split -- it isn't always a bad thing.
There is a reason that you will find colonies of them in the wild, because they split and didn't spawn.
If one is going to propagate an anemone, I would only suggest doing it with an E. quadricolor -- one of 2 hosting anemones that naturally split. The other being H. magnifica, but there track record is too poor to attempt propagation with -- IMO.
There is a reason that you will find colonies of them in the wild, because they split and didn't spawn.
If one is going to propagate an anemone, I would only suggest doing it with an E. quadricolor -- one of 2 hosting anemones that naturally split. The other being H. magnifica, but there track record is too poor to attempt propagation with -- IMO.
BroncosZOA
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A sexual propogation
The propogation your talking about does not involve ripping yourself into two seperate animals. The type of reproduction your talking about is not the same type of a sexual reproduction an anemone does. They are completely different.
Also anemones dont have predetermined sizes, they can grow to huge sizes. The only thing that would prevent them from growing is the lack of space which would stress them out. I have seen 4 inch bubbletips split and 12 inch bubbletips split. All induced by stress of some sort. I know many people who have dinner plates size RBTA that have never split.
If an anemones splits and its female both animals from the split are female. They are sexually viable but cause they are still both females they cant sexual reproduce with out the prescense of sperm, where as a shark has given birth to male pups.
There are many different kinds of asexual reproduction
Animals dont rip themselves apart because condition are ideal.
The propogation your talking about does not involve ripping yourself into two seperate animals. The type of reproduction your talking about is not the same type of a sexual reproduction an anemone does. They are completely different.
Also anemones dont have predetermined sizes, they can grow to huge sizes. The only thing that would prevent them from growing is the lack of space which would stress them out. I have seen 4 inch bubbletips split and 12 inch bubbletips split. All induced by stress of some sort. I know many people who have dinner plates size RBTA that have never split.
If an anemones splits and its female both animals from the split are female. They are sexually viable but cause they are still both females they cant sexual reproduce with out the prescense of sperm, where as a shark has given birth to male pups.
There are many different kinds of asexual reproduction
Animals dont rip themselves apart because condition are ideal.
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Trex
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Anemones do have predetermined sizes -- just look at an H. malu, one of the smallest hosting anemones.
There are even theories that there are 2 different types of E. quadricolors -- the solitary, larger (( usually deeper water )) ones that do not split very often, and the smaller colonial, smaller (( usually shallow water )) ones that do often split.
The propagation that the OP is talking about has been going on for about a decade now, and is quite successful, see no reason to be against this with E. quadricolors.
There are even theories that there are 2 different types of E. quadricolors -- the solitary, larger (( usually deeper water )) ones that do not split very often, and the smaller colonial, smaller (( usually shallow water )) ones that do often split.
The propagation that the OP is talking about has been going on for about a decade now, and is quite successful, see no reason to be against this with E. quadricolors.
Otter_rs
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So you are saying that if given the space, an anemone will reach the size of a house? It is a simple relationship of surface area to body mass that determines size limitations, and anemones have that limitation.
As for other types of asexual reproduction, you are saying that a shark is using less energy by having a fully developed pup than anemone uses ripping itself in half? And let's look at a close relative of the anemone, the corallimorpharian. Does a mushroom coral only divide under stress? Can it get to the size of a house?
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GratefulReef
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I always knew you could do this, but I assumed it was much more risky. I have a pretty big rbta usually 9+ inches and I have been thinking it would split on its own because its oral disc looks like a pie wedge has been cut out of it but its been a few weeks and no new splitting is happening. I was thinking of cutting the nem myself and now that I saw how easy that was I may just do it this weekend.
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Dixie_reefer
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Let us know how it goes!
