Pros vs Cons: Live Rock vs Dry Rock

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There are many pros and cons for starting a new aquarium with Live Rock or Dry Rock. Many people choose to setup their tank with both live and dry rock. So what do you think is best and what are the pros and cons of both of these options?


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Gonna keep an eye on this...since i was thinking about dry rock for my next tank.

I feel like you miss out on the good invertebrates by going dry - bristle worms, micro brittle stars, etc.
 
I started my system with dried rock which had been in the system of a previous reefer who had broken his system down awhile back. Starting with dry rock true you don't get the good hitch hikers as mentioned above, but than at the same time you don't have to worry about the hitchhikers that are bad such as apistia either. With dry rock whatever you have in your system you have decided to place there. I have seen a lot of posts of people saying that dead rock gives off a lot of phosphates, I honestly don't know if mine has or not since at this time it is not something that I am testing for. I haven't seen any issues of algae yet, but my system is still new just over the two month mark, so that may change now that I have fish in the tank and I am feeding the fish adding more nutrients to the water that had been there previously.

With live rock the cycle time is defintily shorter than when using dry rock and also with dry rock you need to introduce bacteria to the system to get the cycle going. This can be done by using a baceteria addiitive that is available there are a few out there that I have heard people using, adding some live rock with which does open the possibility of unwanted hitchhikers.

The other biggest thing that I have seen between using live rock or dry rock is that dry rock definitly cost less than what quality live rock does, which for someone who is starting out and might not have a large budget to work with on setting up their tank this is definitly attractive. Just some of my thoughts, interested in hearing what others have to say.
 
I love all the sponges, trunicates, etc too much to have a no live rock. It is definitely a double edged sword.
 
Pros: What you want when you want.
Cons: What you don't want when you don't want it.

It isn't hard to get hitchikers. Most hitchhikers are overrated anyways. I hate vermitid snails, asterina stars, brittle stars, and bristle worms. Not to mention the pests.
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I'm using dry rock from reefcleaners.org and am very satisified! I did buy a small 1 pound chunk of live rock to help supplement the coralline algae etc. I had a medium GHA bloom at the end of the cycle that I'm addressing now with tweezers, an emerald crab and some hermits. My phosphates have remained at 0 or .25, never above that. I'll never do a full start with live rock only again.
 
I prefer dry rock. It is cheaper, easier to sort through and pick out, pest free, and allows you to take your time with your scape.
 
I like dry because I like to work with it and get it just how I like it before I start a tank. But then I like to seed it with a few live pieces. :)
 
Dry Rock

Explanation. Rock looks good on site.

BRS ghetto-rock im looking at you!
 
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I like dry rock but it's never going to be as pretty in color as live rock. I also feel like you lose out on really important bacteria and organisms when you go with dry rock.
 
I like live rock even though you do run a large risk of unwanted pests. The thing I don't like of dry rock is that its just so white and does not look natural. I know eventually coraline will entrust it but I'm just saying in the beginning plus I have seen a lot of threads using dry rock that have had a huge algea issue. I know there is also cured live rock and while you will not get the few nice hitch hikers you won't get the bad either but out still has the nice colors
 
My dry rock took a year to look great, now, it's definitely live rock, nice colors, life everywhere. I seem to have gotten the good pests and none of the bad so far. Both LR and DR have their own setup issues. With LR you must cycle the rock in your tank, removing the rock periodically to remove the die off until the tank has stabilized. With DR, it's good to soak it for a few days removing the loose film and letting the rock soak up the h2o while expelling it's phos. true tho that it's not a must. I prefer DR, seeded by treated LR, when I seeded my tank with live rock, I dipped it to hopefully remove the bad apples from it. It must have worked thus far as I have yet to find any bad HH.
 
Dry rock - Typically takes longer to cover in beneficial bacteria and can be seeded with a singe live rock. It does limit exposure to unwated pests which is a big plus and comes in nice shapes.

Live rock - Can have some initial die off and cause issues with the tank. You can add pests which can be difficult to impossible to remove. This rock looks more natural but the shapes are typically harder to work with in creating aquascapes. Live rock already has beneficial bacteria and micro fauna on it ( quality Live rock)
 
I started my tank with live rock, but had something in it that was killing the fish that hang out lower in the tank. I thought it was a pistol shrimp that I'd added, then wondered if I had an errant mantis and after not hearing clicking for a few days (even from the pistol shrimp) I started thinking I had a rock crab. There were obvious signs of something digging along the bottom of my rock in 2 places. I pulled everything out twice & inspected it, but of course you can't see into every nook & cranny. I let it sit out to see if anything would come out and nothing. I set up bottle traps and only caught my peppermint shrimp. I finally gave up and was going to ditch all of my live rock and buy Real Reef, but my LFS talked me into bleaching my existing rock since I have some great shapes. One of the folks there actually did the bleaching for me. She soaked it in prime and now it's buried under long established live sand to help kick start it again. She's also rubbed some live rock on it to get the coralline going. I'm bummed I had to kill the good stuff on the rock, but the bad stuff really needed to go and I'm looking forward to getting some more fish and not worrying that I'll come home to find them dead in 24 hours.
 
Here's my $.02 take it with a grain of salt.
Live rock: yes you will get the seeded bacteria to kickstart your biodiversity and bio filtration. However, this comes with access dead organisms lodged or seeped deep into the rock where we can't see and slowly leeches out into the water introducing excess unwanted side effects. Yes you get a little surprise with organisms that hitch hike like sponges, stars, worms, feather dusters, but you also may get bristles, nudi, aptasia, etc that are malefactors to our tanks.

Dry rock: I tend to separate this into 2 sub categories. 1. Dry rock that was once live from the ocean or an existing tank that was cured/acid washed, treated then left to dry for a long period of time. This to me is more middle ground. You have benefits and hope that the curing process killed and depleted a lot of the unwanted organics. However, how sure can you be? There will always be organics that has seeped deep into the rock. The difference is that the treating process has extracted a majority of the unwanted live rock organics. 2. Dry rock excavated away from reef source such as arc reef. These rocks have had no marine organism interaction, life, death affecting it. Arc reef claims they cure, treat, and drill all their rocks. They claim with scientific testing that all their rocks have been treated and will not bring with it harmful chemicals or organisms.

Pros/cons:
You lose the biofiltration and biodiversity initially going dry. However, you get nothing you didn't intend to put in there to begin with. Cycling naturally fish/fishes is faster with live rock. However, you can use live sand coupled with dry rock and jump starters like bio spira, dr Tim's 1 and only, or fritz on dry rock to seed the initial nitrifying bacteria that will bond to rock and sand and begin their proliferation.

I have researched and personally seen complete dry rocks from marco in reef tanks that caused algal and diatom blooms. However, they usually have a common denominator underlying issue. Cycling with lights on too long or too high intensity, adding livestock too early believing manufacture and internet claims their tank cycled in 5 days, etc.

My advice, go with what you like best for your build budget. With the resources and research knowledge you acquire, be prepared to spend the time and know what may be potential issues.

I would go dry rock like marco or arc reef with live sand bed no more than 2" deep and no less than 1/2". Seed with fritz turbo 900 add ammonium chloride (please follow manufacture directions and don't just eyeball), let it cycle until nitrate spikes then falls to a measurable zero (we are never certain it is absolute 0), then test for phosphate and let it cycle a couple weeks more until that falls to measurable 0 or close to it. Before adding livestock, I would probably seed with coraline algae in a bottle, add copepods and chaeto, dose phytoplankton, let that whole thing run a couple more weeks to establish the pods population w/o falling prey to feeding fish predators.

Keep in mind, I would do this all without lights on at all except fuge light for chaeto growth. The amount of time you give the bacteria to grow will be 1.5 months total which will establish. Couple that with the copepods and chaeto and coralline algae growth, the biodiversity shouldout compete nuisance algae like diatom, gha, bubble, byprosis, and dinoflagellates. If done right the biofiltration established will keep your new livestock healthy, happy and hopefully disease free.

From here upkeep and husbandry is up to you.

Again, my $.02 and I have not seen anyone doing this exact technique so it is hypothetical based on research. I will be doing this exactly with mybreefer 350 build in the near future.
 
Live rock all the way.

I've used both over the last 15+ years and I won't use all dry ever again. My most successful tanks have all used true live rock from the ocean and I love the million little critters and organisms that you get.

I'll take a few unwanted "pests" in exchange for the diversity you get with real live rock. The tanks I've used all dry rock in have ended up being overrun with bryopsis, dino's, gha, aptasia, etc. There's just not enough competition to keep those things in check.

Edit: just realized how old this is, my bad.
 
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Live rock all the way.

I've used both over the last 15+ years and I won't use all dry ever again. My most successful tanks all used true live rock from the ocean and I love the million little critters and organisms that you get.

I'll take a few unwanted things in exchange for the diversity you get with real live rock. The tanks I've done all dry rock, I've ended up being overrun with bryopsis, dino's, gha, aptasia, etc. There's just not enough competition to keep those things in check.

Edit: just realized how old this is, my bad.
It doesn’t matter how old the thread, the divide will always be the same.

when aquarist try to control to the point of bringing in sterile conditions with specific bottled bacteria, they create a very fragile enviroment. Sterile is good in an operating room of a hospital, but not in a reef tank.
 
It doesn’t matter how old the thread, the divide will always be the same.

when aquarist try to control to the point of bringing in sterile conditions with specific bottled bacteria, they create a very fragile enviroment. Sterile is good in an operating room of a hospital, but not in a reef tank.

To each their own but I couldn't agree more. I've tried the sterile approach and it was nothing but a headache. Catching a glimpse of the micro-orgsnisms is a big enjoyment for the whole family.
 
I have worked with dry rock and live rock over the decades and here are my thoughts:

Dry rock: Provides the most flexibility in the construction of your aquascape. While you can work with live rock, it is much, much easier to work with dry and get your scape just the way you want it. And as long as you are patient, life will come to your dry rock. As already stated, not all dry rock is created equal...you don't want rocks that will leech contaminants into your tank.

Live rock: Well, not all live rock is created equal either. The primary benefits are the wealth and extent of life on the rock, as the rock itself is not life as we define it. That and the quicker time until it looks 'good'. And that varies by the type and quality of the rock also. You have to build with what you get (with one possible exception I describe below), and it is much more difficult to attach rocks together into interesting structures. The life on it can be both positive and negative...plenty on that already, but I would opine that the positive outweighs the potential negative.

My best rock experience was at a LFS that had an excellent supply of well-cured live rock on hand. One of their employees and I actually set up several potential aquascapes with live rock in the store until I found what I liked. The rock was out of water for under 2 hours total from testing through driving home, though kept wet throughout. The rock looked great in the store and did not have any observable die-off. Also, the quickest initial cycle I have had. I may have spent a few dollars more than if I had ordered rock online, but I got exactly what I wanted and it was in outstanding condition on arrival home. If you have this option, I would seriously consider it.

My coolest live rock was ordered from Tampa Bay Saltwater. They harvest rock that has been seeded on the floor of the Gulf and air shipped to you. You have to go get it at the airport. The process to acclimate and die-off were significant, and the cost is considerable, even by live rock standards. However, the breadth of life that was on the rock and in the sand was amazing. I did have to catch a couple of nasties (I remember a particularly wily gorilla crab I eventually caught and moved to a sump chamber filled with rock). Ultimately, I thought the effort and cost was worth having the experience once, but I didn't repeat for my newest tank.
 

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