Pump longevity and noise. Your knowledge needed!

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I have been trying to put together a way of sorting through all the available aquarium return pumps out there. Picking a return pump has always been a bit of a hassle, especially for those new to the hobby, as there are nearly 200 options available. I have made a spreadsheet that contains all pump data, were you can input basic info about your plumbing and tank and receive pump recommendations. The goal of this spreadsheet is to whittle down possible pumps to a manageable few. This is starting as a spreadsheet but may eventually morph into an online app. I did not include pumps under 200 gph or 6 ft of head, as these pumps are often used in reactors or skimmers, and not often as returns (there are also a million of the things). If you feel that any pumps that are still manufactured were left out, please let me know.

But what I need is data, and that is where you (the community) come in. I need data on pump longevity and noise levels- and this is data I can’t just look up. But if we ask enough hobbyist, we should get a good general idea of where different pumps are. Pump longevity is the number of years of service you would expect to get out of the pump from new, on average, with regular maintenance. Noise level is based on the following scale, with all other equipment turned off:

1 Silent: cannot be heard, period (I do not expect any current pump to fall into this category)
2 Very quiet: audible with ear next to pump
3 Audible: audible within a few feet
4 Noisy: audible in the same room
5 Loud: audible in the same house

All you need to do is list pumps YOU have experience with, longevity in years, and the noise level.

For example:

"Danner Mag 9.5", 8, 3

And Thank You!
 
The pumps I have listed so far:
brand, pump, GPH Max (claimed)
Abyzz, A100, 2200
Abyzz, A200, 4400
Abyzz, A400, 6060
Apex, , 370
Apex, , 656
Apex, , 1110
Apex, , 1982
Aquamaxx, VSB-6000, 1580
Aquamaxx, VSB-9000, 2370
Aquamaxx, VSB-12000, 3170
Aquamedic, Runner 2.1, 528
Aquamedic, Runner 3.1, 792
Aquamedic, Runner 5.1, 1320
Aquamedic, Runner 9.1, 2377
Askoll (Laguna), 1350 Max Flo, 1400
Blue Line, 55hd, 1100
Blue Line, 100hd, 1900
Blue Line, 70hd, 1750
current, eFlux 1050, 1050
current, eFlux 1900, 1900
current, eFlux 3170, 3170
Danner, Mag 5, 500
Danner, Mag 7, 700
Danner, Mag 9.5, 950
Danner, Mag 12, 1250
Danner, Mag 18, 1800
Danner, Mag 24, 2400
Deepwater, DC5, 1400
Deepwater, DC8, 2100
Deepwater, DC10, 2650
Deepwater, DC15, 4000
Dolphin , Diamond, 3500
Dolphin , Diamond, 4750
Dolphin , Diamond, 6250
Ecotech, Vectra S1, 1400
Ecotech, Vectra M1, 2000
Ecotech, Vectra L1, 3100
Ehiem, compacton 2100, 555
Ehiem, compacton 3000, 792
Ehiem, compacton 5000, 1320
Ehiem, 1250, 320
Ehiem, 1260, 635
Ehiem, 1262, 900
Elos, SF3000, 740
Elos, SF6000, 1585
Elos, SF11000, 2905
Fluval, SP2, 950
Fluval, SP4, 1822
Fluval, SP6, 3434
hydor, Pump 320, 320
hydor, Pump 740, 740
Iwaki, MD-20RLT, 492
Iwaki, MD-20RT, 492
Iwaki, MD-20RXT, 822
Iwaki, MD-30RT, 600
Iwaki, MD-30RXT, 1140
Iwaki, MD-40RT, 822
Iwaki, MD-40RXT, 1344
Iwaki, MD-55RLT, 1104
Iwaki, MD-70RLT, 1536
Iwaki, MD-100RLT, 2136
Jebao, DCS-2000, 528
Jebao, DCS-3000, 845
Jebao, DCT-4000, 1056
Jebao, DCS-5000, 1320
Jebao, DCP-5000, 1453
Jebao, DCT-6000, 1585
Jebao, DCP-8000, 2113
Jebao, DCP-10000, 2641
Jebao, DCS-12000, 3170
Jebao, DCP-15000, 3960
Jebao, DCT-15000, 3960
Jebao, DCP-18000, 4887
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 1200, 317
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 2200, 594
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 3000, 758
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 4000, 1022
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 5000, 1458
Lifegard, Quiet one pro 6000, 1876
Lifegard, Seahorse 1/2, 3,600
Lifegard, Seahorse 3/4, 4,860
Lifegard, Seahorse 1, 5,760
Little Giant, 2-MDQ-SC, 510
Little Giant, 3-MDQ-SC, 700
Little Giant, 3-MDQX-SC, 1,100
Little Giant, 4-MDQ-SC, 850
Little Giant, 4-MDQX-SC, 1,325
neptune, cor-15, 1500
neptune, cor-20, 2000
Nyos, Viper 2, 530
Nyos, Viper 3, 740
Nyos, Viper 5, 1320
Pan World, 10PX, 180
Pan World, 30PX, 258
Pan World, 40PX, 480
Pan World, 50PX, 590
Pan World, 50PXX, 1110
Pan World, 100px-x, 1270
Pan World, 100px , 790
Pan World, 150ps, 1100
Pan World, 200ps, 1750
Pan World, 250ps, 1900
Reef Octopus, varios 2, 792
Reef Octopus, varios 4, 1050
Reef Octopus, varios 6, 1720
Reef Octopus, varios 8, 2700
Reeflo, swordtail, 1750
Reeflo, Yellowtail Gold, 2400
Reeflo, Suntail Gold, 4100
Reeflo, Snapper/Dart Hybrid, 2600
Reeflo, Snapper/Dart Hybrid, 3600
Reeflo, Super Dart/Snapper Gold Hybrid , 2400
Reeflo, Super Dart/Snapper Gold Hybrid , 4300
Reeflo, Barracuda/Hammerhead Hybrid, 4590
Reeflo, Barracuda/Hammerhead Hybrid, 6000
Reeflo, Hammerhead/Barracuda Gold Hybrid, 4300
Reeflo, Hammerhead/Barracuda Gold Hybrid, 6001
Reeflo, Manta Ray, 5040
Reeflo, Tiger Shark, 8500
Royal exclusiv, Red dragon 3, 4782
Royal exclusiv, Red dragon 3, 1321
Royal exclusiv, Red dragon 3, 2113
Royal exclusiv, Red dragon 3, 5415
Royal exclusiv, Red dragon 3, 4755
Sicce, 1300, 320
Sicce, 2500, 715
Sicce, 4000, 990
Sicce, 5800, 1500
Sicce, syncra S 2.0, 568
Sicce, syncra S 3.0, 714
Sicce, syncra S 3.5, 660
Sicce, syncra S 4.0, 951
Sicce, syncra S 5.0, 1321
Sicce, syncra pro, 550
Sicce, syncra pro, 800
Sicce, syncra pro, 1000
Sicce, syncra pro, 1500
Sicce, syncra pro, 1900
Sicce, syncra SDC 7, 1900
Sicce, syncra SDC 9, 2500
Sicce, syncra HF 10, 2500
Sicce, syncra HF 12, 3200
Sicce, syncra HF 16, 4200
Skimz, Quietpro 2.0, 528
Skimz, Quietpro 4.0, 1056
Skimz, Quietpro 6.0, 1585
Skimz, Quietpro 9.0, 2377
Skimz, Leopard L60, 1700
Skimz, Leopard L75, 1980
Skimz, Leopard L90, 2375
Skimz, Leopard L110, 2905
Skimz, Leopard L160, 4220
Taam, Rio 1100, 382
Taam, Rio 1400, 420
Taam, Rio 1700, 642
Taam, Rio 2100, 692
Taam, Rio 2500, 782
Taam, Rio 3100, 900
Taam, Rio HF 17, 1090
Taam, Rio HF 20, 1290
Taam, Rio HF 26, 1590
Taam, Rio HF 32, 1920
tunze, silence 1073.020, 630
tunze, silence 1073.040, 790
tunze, silence 1073.050, 580
tunze, silence 1073.050, 790
tunze, silence 1073.060, 1321
tunze, silence 1073.110, 2906
Vertex, V6, 1584
waveline, DC6000, 1585
waveline, DC10000, 2641
waveline, DC12000, 3170
 
I would suggest that longevity is better assessed based on actual time folks have used a pump versus expectations of useful lifetime. Also Blueline are the same as PanWorld, so you can shorten your list.

Iwaki 40RT ..... Longevity A+ (20 years); though noisy so a 3-4 on your scale
PanWorld 100 ..... longevity A (10 years so far); noisy 4
PanWorld 200 ..... Longevity A (2 year so far; expect at least 10); noisy 4
PanWorld 40 (multiples) .... Longevity A (10 years so far); noisy 3
Fluval SP4 ..... Only used it for 2 years, though seemed very well built; noisy 2
ETM Vectra M1 ...... Used it for about a year, not sure about longevity yet; noisy 1
 
I have 1 Mag 18, & 1 Mag 12 for my return pumps. Mag 18 stopped working the other day which was fine because it only had 3 months left to warranty,(5 Yr), I could not hear that the(18) pump wasn't working without putting my hand in the tank for out put. But I do have cooling fans in the canopy that make a little noise so it could mask noise from the pumps. I'll check later when I get home. I'm thinking very quiet.(Mag 18)(If your wondering why 2 diff size pumps, one(mag 12) is a straight shot up for right side of tank, and the 18 runs through a manifold to the left which flows reactors etc..)
 
Danner mag drives 5-12, audible, after a couple years hard to start up after being turned off but otherwise dependable. Iwaki, (forgot the size), noisy but never stopped working. Current eflux 1900gph, silent and has been flawless over a year now.
 
SICCE Syncra S 4 - 4, 4 if room is silent.

Jebao DCT 6500 - 1.1, 2. Do not hear with cabinet closed
 
Jebao DCS 12000 2 years ~2-3 on noise it depends on the speed. Under 70% its a 70 and over its a 3
 
Panworld 50 PXX
Longevity: 8 years so far (maybe 10 cleanings)
Noise: 2-3. It's much quieter than any submersible I've used previously for return, but with cabinet door open you can hear the fan
 
Jebao, DC-12000, 3170 - Noise 4 --- Loud AF in my mind; it has lasted 6 months so far with 0 maintenance
 
Iwaki 70 bought use & ran for 12 years - sold & still running after another 6 a 3 on the list
Red Dragon Speedy 80 watt 3 years - 1 on the list runs internally & adds NO heat to water.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
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