QT size question

[4FordFamily]

My qt is a 55 gallon but it qt's my fish that go in my two 180s and 125. It's often quite packed and requires weekly water changes.

The key is to watch parameters. The smaller the tank the harder it'll be to maintain acceptable parameters for your fish when you have large or more than a couple.

I do subscribe to the larger is better idea, so long as you know the water changes and mediation replenishment will be far more expensive. I think this is the sole reason people opt for smaller qt's. Some of these meds get expensive, especially if you must replace during water changes.

 

[Lionfish Lair]

It's not like the chicken pox where once you've had it, you're done, but the fish won't get Ich again unless it comes in contact with it again. If you treat all fish coming into the tank and QT all your other stuff for the appropriate amount of time, it won't come into contact with it again.

 

[Lionfish Lair]

I use 12 gallon JBJs for hospital tanks (filled with 10 gallons only) and 24 or 28 gallon for quarantining.

 

[justingraham]

So.... for instance, If you get a fish from the lfs and it gets qtd from the moment it hits your house and it gets ich let's say, you treat it in the qt and after its healed and healthy you put it in the DP it shouldn't get ich again? Or is it less likely to get it again or how does that work?

That is my beleif. Sure u can introduce something new into ur system a frag ur hand that was just in a qt system and so and and so on that could infect the system. But my beleif and it could very well be wrong as I am no dr or a vet. I just have read a lot and a lot and a lot and I have come to the conclusion that after u qt and get rid of ich and qt everything that goes into ur tank afterwards u feed properly in the display tank with good live or frozen food u will be at the best place u can be for ur fish not to get sick. I mean just think rationally. If u kill the said disease on a fish and the fish is one hundred percent healthy when u add them into the display tank and u do this with all of ur fish and corals how can a disease be present? Unless it is introduced to the system via the equipment used in the qt process how is it possible? It's a closed loop system when u think about it. It's not connected to the ocean or another water source that is conected to water that has a disease. Once again this is only my opinion but until I read something or see something that would change my mind from the tons and tons of reading I have done logistically I just don't see how it's possible. Fishes are Immune from human disease and they are in a closed system from everything else. I don't know I could be way off and way wrong and once again there are people on here way smarter then me and have many more years of experience then me. But from what I have read this is how I have based my conclusion.

 

[jpontier212]

That is my beleif. Sure u can introduce something new into ur system a frag ur hand that was just in a qt system and so and and so on that could infect the system. But my beleif and it could very well be wrong as I am no dr or a vet. I just have read a lot and a lot and a lot and I have come to the conclusion that after u qt and get rid of ich and qt everything that goes into ur tank afterwards u feed properly in the display tank with good live or frozen food u will be at the best place u can be for ur fish not to get sick. I mean just think rationally. If u kill the said disease on a fish and the fish is one hundred percent healthy when u add them into the display tank and u do this with all of ur fish and corals how can a disease be present? Unless it is introduced to the system via the equipment used in the qt process how is it possible? It's a closed loop system when u think about it. It's not connected to the ocean or another water source that is conected to water that has a disease. Once again this is only my opinion but until I read something or see something that would change my mind from the tons and tons of reading I have done logistically I just don't see how it's possible. Fishes are Immune from human disease and they are in a closed system from everything else. I don't know I could be way off and way wrong and once again there are people on here way smarter then me and have many more years of experience then me. But from what I have read this is how I have based my conclusion.

I believe that you may be right bit on the same note a perfectly healthy fish can get stressed out by another healthy fish and have an ailment arise due to stress in a perfect feeding and parameter environment. So i guess you have to play the hands you're dealt. You can do everything right as far as you can control but unless you sit in front of the tank all day and night it seems to me that what's going to happen, happens.

 

[justingraham]

I believe that you may be right bit on the same note a perfectly healthy fish can get stressed out by another healthy fish and have an ailment arise due to stress in a perfect feeding and parameter environment. So i guess you have to play the hands you're dealt. You can do everything right as far as you can control but unless you sit in front of the tank all day and night it seems to me that what's going to happen, happens.

Correct I agree I really due but if there is no parisites in the tank to take effect when the fish gets stressed wouldn't u only have a stressed fish? And possibly HILLE would arise but not ich that's my thoughts and I could be wrong I'm no dr

 

[jsker]

That is my beleif. Sure u can introduce something new into ur system a frag ur hand that was just in a qt system and so and and so on that could infect the system. But my beleif and it could very well be wrong as I am no dr or a vet. I just have read a lot and a lot and a lot and I have come to the conclusion that after u qt and get rid of ich and qt everything that goes into ur tank afterwards u feed properly in the display tank with good live or frozen food u will be at the best place u can be for ur fish not to get sick. I mean just think rationally. If u kill the said disease on a fish and the fish is one hundred percent healthy when u add them into the display tank and u do this with all of ur fish and corals how can a disease be present? Unless it is introduced to the system via the equipment used in the qt process how is it possible? It's a closed loop system when u think about it. It's not connected to the ocean or another water source that is conected to water that has a disease. Once again this is only my opinion but until I read something or see something that would change my mind from the tons and tons of reading I have done logistically I just don't see how it's possible. Fishes are Immune from human disease and they are in a closed system from everything else. I don't know I could be way off and way wrong and once again there are people on here way smarter then me and have many more years of experience then me. But from what I have read this is how I have based my conclusion.

I believe that you may be right bit on the same note a perfectly healthy fish can get stressed out by another healthy fish and have an ailment arise due to stress in a perfect feeding and parameter environment. So i guess you have to play the hands you're dealt. You can do everything right as far as you can control but unless you sit in front of the tank all day and night it seems to me that what's going to happen, happens.

Both of you guys are on track. We are always looking for a quick fix, which is great. Most of the time, common since and patients works better. Hence my suggestion for a simple fix with what you had in your original post and what you had on hand. Back in the day this was the go to miracle product for new and stressed fish, Stress coat plus boosting the immune system.

 

[Lionfish Lair]

You are correct about certain ailments such as Ich, but there are many other diseases that aren't communicable that can be secondary to the presence of stress.

 

[mcarroll]

Ok, one more post - mostly to pass on a link.

A fish that's had ich and doesn't succumb is then immune for a period of time. Immune = "can be" a carrier.

I think if carrier status is established, the period of time they might be a carrier can be loooong according to this:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa164

...a great source of information on marine ich. (Check out their other publications on velvet, etc.)

 

[Lionfish Lair]

My volitans became a lived with it for many years. It was when we moved to the new house he couldn't get it back under control.

My 100g had Ich and every now and then you'd see it on an eyeball of one of the fish. You couldn't see it otherwise and there never was an outbreak.