QT

tom reilly · Oct 16, 2016

Is there any reason a yellow coris wrasse and an algae bleeny can endure cupramine and prazipro treatments while in QT?

helen ann · Oct 16, 2016

Hmmmm, I am not really the person to help

but let me give you a lil' bump

CJBuckeyes · Oct 16, 2016

You shouldn't use both meds at once. The wrasse may be sensitive to copper. @melypr1985 would know better..

Humblefish · Oct 16, 2016

The blenny would probably be fine in Cupramine, but for the wrasse I would suggest chelated copper (exs. Coppersafe, Copper Power). So, play it safe & use chelated on both fish.

And because of the wrasse, I suggest avoiding mixing copper + Prazipro, if possible.

melypr1985 · Oct 16, 2016

Agreed ^^^ Coppersafe is a good bet for both. It's always smart to play it safe and not mix meds unless you absolutely have to. Wait until after the copper is removed before running prazi.

tom reilly · Oct 16, 2016

helen ann said:
Hmmmm, I am not really the person to help but let me give you a lil' bump

Sorry did not mean to aim that at you. I'm still new to this.

tom reilly · Oct 16, 2016

Thanks all. Will use coppersafe and do meds separately.

4FordFamily · Oct 16, 2016

Humblefish said:
The blenny would probably be fine in Cupramine, but for the wrasse I would suggest chelated copper (exs. Coppersafe, Copper Power). So, play it safe & use chelated on both fish.

And because of the wrasse, I suggest avoiding mixing copper + Prazipro, if possible.

melypr1985 said:
Agreed ^^^ Coppersafe is a good bet for both. It's always smart to play it safe and not mix meds unless you absolutely have to. Wait until after the copper is removed before running prazi.

For what it is worth guys I have struggled hard to get wrasse through coppersafe, too. I've now killed 3 Melanarus and 3 yellow coris trying. They ate well and copper most recently was increased over 1.5 weeks very very slowly. They died right at about .2 PPM almost every time. I had two leopards croak as well. Not having luck with coppersafe and halichoeres.

I've had leopards do fine in it before but they were established well first typically, and I had halichoeres do fine too but again they were well established prior. Really depressing.

melypr1985 · Oct 16, 2016

4FordFamily said:
For what it is worth guys I have struggled hard to get wrasse through coppersafe, too. I've now killed 3 Melanarus and 3 yellow coris trying. They ate well and copper most recently was increased over 1.5 weeks very very slowly. They died right at about .2 PPM almost every time. I had two leopards croak as well. Not having luck with coppersafe and halichoeres.

I've had leopards do fine in it before but they were established well first typically, and I had halichoeres do fine too but again they were well established prior. Really depressing.

Man. I don't get it. I've had meanarus wrasses sit in my fish system (coppersafe) for months before being sold and they did fine. I've put yellow coris wrasses through Cupramine with no problems. I just don't get it dude. Bad luck?

4FordFamily · Oct 16, 2016

melypr1985 said:
Man. I don't get it. I've had meanarus wrasses sit in my fish system (coppersafe) for months before being sold and they did fine. I've put yellow coris wrasses through Cupramine with no problems. I just don't get it dude. Bad luck?

I don't know. I feel like I had better luck with wrasse with cupramine than coppersafe now.

Meanwhile I've had no trouble with any angel

melypr1985 · Oct 16, 2016

4FordFamily said:
I don't know. I feel like I had better luck with wrasse with cupramine than coppersafe now.

Meanwhile I've had no trouble with any angel

Just goes to show... you gotta take it case by case and go slow. For others that are reading this: We can give generalities about what is safe to use with certain species, but each fish will be a bit different and some may react to a medication differently than we expect. You just have to be prepared to change the plan sometimes.

Empress · Oct 17, 2016

Maybe you should stop at 1.5ppm and see how that goes.

tom reilly · Oct 17, 2016

how about kordon ich plus? no one seems crazy about the copper products. I keep reading horror stories.

melypr1985 · Oct 17, 2016

tom reilly said:
how about kordon ich plus? no one seems crazy about the copper products. I keep reading horror stories.

Those other products don't work to eradicate ick. If your not fond of the idea of copper you can try to get a hold of Chlorquine Phosphate or try Tank Transfer Method. Those "all natural" products only help the fish live with ick and even that's debatable.

Duke4Life · Oct 17, 2016

melypr1985 said:
Just goes to show... you gotta take it case by case and go slow. For others that are reading this: We can give generalities about what is safe to use with certain species, but each fish will be a bit different and some may react to a medication differently than we expect. You just have to be prepared to change the plan sometimes.

Very well said!