Qt'ing multiple tangs

[Biff0rz]

So I have a few tangs on my list, some are the same shape like a yellow and purple. Everything I read says add similar tangs at the same time, cool. What's the best way to qt them? Add to qt at the same time? I ask because my qt is a 20L...that's quite a small tank for 2 tangs for 76 days, no?

 

[Hugh Mann]

It is definitely quite small for two tangs. You however, don't need to quarantine for 76 days. If you're against the prophylactic use of copper/other meds, I would recommend the tank transfer method. Only needs I believe 14 days. Done right it works for ich and velvet, and you can use prazi for internal parasites.

 

[Biff0rz]

It is definitely quite small for two tangs. You however, don't need to quarantine for 76 days. If you're against the prophylactic use of copper/other meds, I would recommend the tank transfer method. Only needs I believe 14 days. Done right it works for ich and velvet, and you can use prazi for internal parasites.

I suppose I can buy a second 20L. I thought even with ttm it's longer than 14d...now I need to do some reading lol. Have prazi and lots of meds waiting regardless.

 

[Hugh Mann]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/. Give this a gander. And check out his other threads on quarantine.

You can use rubbermaid plastic bins. Cheaper, and useful for storage when not in use for QT. I would also recommend 3 of everthing if possible to give ample time for sterilization and drying between transfers.

 

[Biff0rz]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/. Give this a gander. And check out his other threads on quarantine.

You can use rubbermaid plastic bins. Cheaper, and useful for storage when not in use for QT. I would also recommend 3 of everthing if possible to give ample time for sterilization and drying between transfers.

OK cool, thanks for the advice. At this point I'm so far deep ($) that cost is irrelevant at this point

 

[JasonK84]

Depends on size of tangs. I did 4 in a 14 biocube last year. All 4 survived. I did have to segregate them because they started fighting and 1 got an infection but even still went over 2 months in that QT. Probably not the wisest choice of size QT but here to show you it can work.

 

[Hugh Mann]

You're welcome. I'm sure all of us, to a person, would second that statement.

 

[Biff0rz]

You're welcome. I'm sure all of us, to a person, would second that statement.

LOL right. OK so I read that thread, ttm for ich and velvet would be great. So I assume you use a Hob filter for each tank, right? Do you place any media in it like matrix or a sponge filter? After cleaning my 233g cleaning 20g tanks will be cake, hah.

 

[Hugh Mann]

Airstones only. The fish aren't in there long enough for ammonia to be a problem, and if it is, you can use Prime.

I don't see why you couldn't use an HoB filter, if just to have some flow for the tangs. But I think most everyone just uses airstones. New stone/airline with every transfer.

 

[Biff0rz]

Airstones only. The fish aren't in there long enough for ammonia to be a problem, and if it is, you can use Prime.

I don't see why you couldn't use an HoB filter, if just to have some flow for the tangs. But I think most everyone just uses airstones. New stone/airline with every transfer.

Ok so you cannot clean and reuse the stone / line?

 

[Hugh Mann]

Technically you could by boiling them for an hour, but with how cheap they are, it's better to use fresh each time, just in case. Then do a mass sterilization at the end if you want to reuse for the next round. TTM while easy to do, is also easy to mess up. Only takes a single drop of water to potentially carry over ich.

 

[Hugh Mann]

Technically you could by boiling them for an hour, but with how cheap they are, it's better to use fresh each time, just in case. Then do a mass sterilization at the end if you want to reuse for the next round. TTM while easy to do, is also easy to mess up. Only takes a single drop of water to potentially carry over ich.

 

[Squidward]

I also recommend Tank Transfer Method. It takes 12 days. And I used small tunze powerheads instead of airstones. I rinse the powerhead, heater, tank, and pvc in hot water and let them dry between transfers. I've used 10g tanks. I have 30 fish including 11 Tangs that all went through TTM and are ich-free. I can't praise enough for TTM.

 

[Biff0rz]

Technically you could by boiling them for an hour, but with how cheap they are, it's better to use fresh each time, just in case. Then do a mass sterilization at the end if you want to reuse for the next round. TTM while easy to do, is also easy to mess up. Only takes a single drop of water to potentially carry over ich.

If a single drop can ruin it how do you transfer the fish over? I saw the colander which makes sense but it still gets wet. Do you dip the fish between in something?

 

[Biff0rz]

I also recommend Tank Transfer Method. It takes 12 days. And I used small tunze powerheads instead of airstones. I rinse the powerhead, heater, tank, and pvc in hot water and let them dry between transfers. I've used 10g tanks. I have 30 fish including 11 Tangs that all went through TTM and are ich-free. I can't praise enough for TTM.

11 tangs? Woah! What size tank??

 

[Squidward]

11 tangs? Woah! What size tank??

300g. And yes transfers with colander is fine being a little wet.

 

[nereefpat]

It is definitely quite small for two tangs. You however, don't need to quarantine for 76 days. If you're against the prophylactic use of copper/other meds, I would recommend the tank transfer method. Only needs I believe 14 days. Done right it works for ich and velvet, and you can use prazi for internal parasites.

Tank transfer is great. It does NOT, however, work for velvet. Velvet's life cycle is too short. You could argue that after 12 days of TTM, you would know if velvet is present though.

If a single drop can ruin it how do you transfer the fish over? I saw the colander which makes sense but it still gets wet. Do you dip the fish between in something?

No need to rinse the fish off. You are transferring tanks to avoid the ich tomonts encysted on the hard surfaces of the tank, and to leave behind any protomonts that have dropped off the fish.

 

[Hugh Mann]

As outlined in Humblefish's write up, you just have to do the first 3 transfers at 36 hours, not 72 for Velvet. Faster life cycle, faster transfers.

If a single drop can ruin it how do you transfer the fish over? I saw the colander which makes sense but it still gets wet. Do you dip the fish between in something?

As for this, it's more so minimize the amount of water transferred, want to do just the fish, and not fish and a couple cups of water. When draining and cleaning the old tanks, you'll want to avoid water transfer, just in case free swimmers have hatched. The odds are unlikely, as the 72 hours gives a fair margin before they should start hatching. Can't be too careful though.