Quarantine products

[Dierker0000]

Hi, so recently I decided I’m going to start to Qt all new fish I get. I have 2 clownfish that I already own so I put them in the Qt first. My plan was to go buy some cupramine and a test kit and treat all new fish with that for 14 days etc.... but I live in Canada and many fish medications are not available at the moment making our choices very limited. So I went to the store looking for cupramine and they did not have it so after chatting with the guy a bit I ended up picking up some Rally. This treats velvet, flukes etc... but not ich. Was this a good choice? Anyways a few weeks before I picked up some paraguard (you cannot get this anymore either but I have the whole bottle still) now my plan is to put the fish in the paraguard first, the bottle has no recommend dosing of days only saying as needed daily or until fish show signs of stress. Now if I’m using this for Qt how many days would I use it for unless the fish show stress. Then after I finish with paraguard do a 100%? Water change or what size? And start treatment with rally. This says minimum of 3 days so what would my max be for Qting fish? Then after that I’m planning just to watch the fish for about 14 days to make sure I didn’t miss anything. Now since neither of these products have copper can I add prime to the water to help with amonia, nitrite etc? Also I am leaving my Dt fallow to kill of the parasites that are in there, how long do I leave it empty? Not sure if it was velvet or ich that killed my fish. Now my clownfish are in the paraguard and I woke up with them seeming pretty stressed but I’m only on the 2nd day of paraguard. They were both at the top where they sleep usually but one seemed to be gasping at the surface. I have a filter that makes decent water movement but I turned on the air stone just in case. I also have a ammonia alert badge and ammonia looks fine. And I tested nitrite not long ago and it’s Aok. After a little bit they did go down to the bottom and started swimming more but didn’t have a huge appetite. Why would this be and can I keep dosing? Btw theses clownfish are pretty young with the large one being maybe 1.5 munch and the other 1inch. Thanks!

my Qt. Since this picture I’ve added the clowns, a alert badge, temp is 80, and took out the live rock and added a extra pvc.

 

[BestMomEver]

Don’t know... @ngoodermuth @HotRocks @4FordFamily

 

[4FordFamily]

Rally won't replace copper, it can provide temporary relief but not rid fish of ich, velvet, etc. It contains acriflavine. It's a great product to have on hand, however.

I'd source Copper Power or even Copper Safe and buy a Hanna Copper Checker for accurate measurements.

14 days in copper is only sufficient if you move the fish to a new, completely sterile quarantine following the 14 days. In other words, it shares no water or equipment from the first and is at least ten feet away. Otherwise, 30 days is best practice.

You'll also want to remove rock, as it can absorb some copper leading to copper level swings (which can render your treatment ineffective).