Quarantine tank aftermath

[Lonestar77566]

I just had a fish die in my QT from ich and most likely something else (Brook or Velvet). I treated him with Copper. Now that hes gone, how do I prepare the tank for a new arrival? Also, do I need to replace the biomedia?

 

[mehaffydr]

I would drain the tank and clean with vinegar or citric acid.
What did you use for Biomedia.? if its wet it could still contain bad stuff. Is it something that you can also clean with vinegar or citric acid.
Also after cleaning I would let the tank sit and dry out real goo before adding water again.

 

[Lonestar77566]

I would drain the tank and clean with vinegar or citric acid.
What did you use for Biomedia.? if its wet it could still contain bad stuff. Is it something that you can also clean with vinegar or citric acid.
Also after cleaning I would let the tank sit and dry out real goo before adding water again.

Yeah, I used the biopellets that you get at petsmart

 

[mehaffydr]

Those should be easy to just clean if your talking about the plastic ones. The ceramic one maybe not so easy as they are very porus

 

[Fishfreak2009]

Honestly if this was my tank I'd add a bunch of bleach, run it for a day or so with the bleach in it, then completely drain and refill it with tap water, dose it with a big dose of dechlorinator, drain it all over again, let it air dry, then reset the tank up and recycle with Microbacter7. That's my standard disinfection protocol for my quarantines.

 

[HomebroodExotics]

What I'm doing right now is just running fallow. Why bleach everything and start over?It's so important to have an established aquarium for your qt fish to be introduced into IMO. I feel like my first mistake is typically introducing fish too soon to an aquarium.

 

[threebuoys]

What copper product did you use, at what concentration, and for how long?

Just because a fish died in QT does not mean you necessarily need to start all over again. On the other hand, an advantage of QT is you can start from scratch if that's easier for you. The key is having clean water and good bio-filtration in the QT whether you start from scratch every time or keep the QT running continuously. If you have copper at the correct level, any theronts that appear will be killed. If you follow the QT protocols, after the copper treatment you will do a significant water change before and after the prazi phase of QT. Through it all, you will keep the bio-filtration running to process ammonia from the QT occupants.

 

[Lonestar77566]

Yeah, I used the biopellets that you get at petsmart

What copper product did you use, at what concentration, and for how long?

Just because a fish died in QT does not mean you necessarily need to start all over again. On the other hand, an advantage of QT is you can start from scratch if that's easier for you. The key is having clean water and good bio-filtration in the QT whether you start from scratch every time or keep the QT running continuously. If you have copper at the correct level, any theronts that appear will be killed. If you follow the QT protocols, after the copper treatment you will do a significant water change before and after the prazi phase of QT. Through it all, you will keep the bio-filtration running to process ammonia from the QT occupants.

I used Copper Power. I know he had ich but I'm not 100% sure if what he had something else as well. If there's a chance it was Brooklynella also, I did not have any formalin to add to it so it would still be active? I plan on keeping some level of copper Power in this tank at all times as it is in my bio pellets now anyway. If it was only ich or velvet, the copper will kill that off

 

[Skynyrd Fish]

That fish looks like it had more than ich. I would do the clean tank dry out method. Get a sponge filter running in your main tank and then put it in the qt for bacterial seeding.

 

[Fishfreak2009]

I used Copper Power. I know he had ich but I'm not 100% sure if what he had something else as well. If there's a chance it was Brooklynella also, I did not have any formalin to add to it so it would still be active? I plan on keeping some level of copper Power in this tank at all times as it is in my bio pellets now anyway. If it was only ich or velvet, the copper will kill that off

This looks like a bad case of Brooklynella.

Fish can have more than 1 disease at once though. Recently my wife added a healthy looking firefish to her tank, only for the previously healthy clownfish to break out with brook, crypt, and flukes.

For future reference, a 90 minute bath in ruby reef rally pro for new additions, followed up with cupramine and praziquantel, or TTM and praziquantel for the sensitive fish works well and eliminates 99.999% of common fish diseases.

 

[Lonestar77566]

This looks like a bad case of Brooklynella.

Fish can have more than 1 disease at once though. Recently my wife added a healthy looking firefish to her tank, only for the previously healthy clownfish to break out with brook, crypt, and flukes.

For future reference, a 90 minute bath in ruby reef rally pro for new additions, followed up with cupramine and praziquantel, or TTM and praziquantel for the sensitive fish works well and eliminates 99.999% of common fish diseases.

He was in my display tank because I added him with my Purple tang because I have a large territorial Powder Brown so I wanted to reduce a fight. I couldn't tell in the dark and in the bag and at that time until I turned on the lights. Then I noticed he had ich and I took him out. This pic was straight out of the bag and he didnt look as bad as the previous pic. Im monitoring my DT for any signs of anything and they all look good. This is day 4. Im praying that ich didnt get in my DT but it probably did. I overnighted a larger UV but its delayed until Monday. Feeding Selcon and Garlic like crazy. If this is Brooklynella, and it did get in my DT, re my livestock doomed? Ive got a 55 gallon QT waiting for me at Petsmart in case I need it.

 

[Fishfreak2009]

He was in my display tank because I added him with my Purple tang because I have a large territorial Powder Brown so I wanted to reduce a fight. I couldn't tell in the dark and in the bag and at that time until I turned on the lights. Then I noticed he had ich and I took him out. This pic was straight out of the bag and he didnt look as bad as the previous pic. Im monitoring my DT for any signs of anything and they all look good. This is day 4. Im praying that ich didnt get in my DT but it probably did. I overnighted a larger UV but its delayed until Monday. Feeding Selcon and Garlic like crazy. If this is Brooklynella, and it did get in my DT, re my livestock doomed? Ive got a 55 gallon QT waiting for me at Petsmart in case I need it.

This photo definitely has ich visible, and the previous pic looked exactly like an advanced case of brook. If these were my fish, and this fish was in the display, I'd pull every fish, bathe them in ruby reef rally pro for 90 minutes, then transfer them all into a sterile quarantine and dose Microbacter/Biospira daily to keep the tank from having an ammonia spike. In quarantine, they'd be treated with cupramine for 30 days and receive 2 treatments of praziquantel, in case of flukes. Then they'd stay in the quarantine for around 80 days to make sure the display sat fallow long enough and was disease free.

 

[Lonestar77566]

This photo definitely has ich visible, and the previous pic looked exactly like an advanced case of brook. If these were my fish, and this fish was in the display, I'd pull every fish, bathe them in ruby reef rally pro for 90 minutes, then transfer them all into a sterile quarantine and dose Microbacter/Biospira daily to keep the tank from having an ammonia spike. In quarantine, they'd be treated with cupramine for 30 days and receive 2 treatments of praziquantel, in case of flukes. Then they'd stay in the quarantine for around 80 days to make sure the display sat fallow long enough and was disease free.

 

[Lonestar77566]

I'm trying to find a stand for a 55 gallon I can set up as QT for 80 days but not having luck. If not its going on the floor. I don't have time to cycle it so is it ok just to pump the DT water into the QT and treat? I would assume so. Still no signs of infection on all fish. I have 4 clowns, 7 Chromis, 1 PBT, 1Purple Tang, 2 Dottyback, 4 Pajamas, Watchman Goby, Tiger Shrimp, 1 Flame Angel, Clean up crew. How long does it normally take to show if it has infected the tank? This is day 4.

 

[Fishfreak2009]

I'm trying to find a stand for a 55 gallon I can set up as QT for 80 days but not having luck. If not its going on the floor. I don't have time to cycle it so is it ok just to pump the DT water into the QT and treat? I would assume so.

Fill it with new water and use a bacterial product. Old tank water will just carry more disease and waste from the display

 

[Lonestar77566]

Fill it with new water and use a bacterial product. Old tank water will just carry more disease and waste from the display

Still no signs of infection on any fish. I have 4 clowns, 7 Chromis, 1 PBT, 1Purple Tang, 2 Dottyback, 4 Pajamas, Watchman Goby, Tiger Shrimp, 1 Flame Angel, Clean up crew. How long does it normally take to show if it has infected the tank? This is day 4 1/2

 

[Fishfreak2009]

Still no signs of infection on any fish. I have 4 clowns, 7 Chromis, 1 PBT, 1Purple Tang, 2 Dottyback, 4 Pajamas, Watchman Goby, Tiger Shrimp, 1 Flame Angel, Clean up crew. How long does it normally take to show if it has infected the tank? This is day 4 1/2

Well, you can always take the chance and not pull to treat. Just be ready and willing to pull everyone if you see any sign of disease.

 

[Lonestar77566]

Well, you can always take the chance and not pull to treat. Just be ready and willing to pull everyone if you see any sign of disease.

What kind of bacterial additive can I put in to cycle that fast? The fish wouldnt survive the cycle and the bioload will be pretty signifivcant.

 

[Fishfreak2009]

What kind of bacterial additive can I put in to cycle that fast? The fish wouldnt survive the cycle and the bioload will be pretty signifivcant.

I use Microbacter7 and Biospira. I added both to my freshly set up 75 gallon, moved all the fish and coral that night. Never had an ammonia spike, and nothing seemed worse for wear. I even added 2 Acropora on day 5 of the tank being filled with water, and they had polyp extension that night. Still growing well with great color, and they've completely encrusted their frag plugs.

I dose microbacter7 daily for about 10 days whenever I set up a quarantine. Never had an ammonia spike, and doesn't react with meds, so perfect for quarantine setups.

 

[Lonestar77566]

I use Microbacter7 and Biospira. I added both to my freshly set up 75 gallon, moved all the fish and coral that night. Never had an ammonia spike, and nothing seemed worse for wear. I even added 2 Acropora on day 5 of the tank being filled with water, and they had polyp extension that night. Still growing well with great color, and they've completely encrusted their frag plugs.

I dose microbacter7 daily for about 10 days whenever I set up a quarantine. Never had an ammonia spike, and doesn't react with meds, so perfect for quarantine setups.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Brightwell products. Haven't heard of Biospira but looking for it now. Thank you so much for the help and your time.