Queen angel problem

[Tonysi]

I had this queen angel for six months now had his juvie coloration when i bought him and started transitioning in his adult colors about last month. Two weeks ago i noticed he turned almost completely white...what gives? He eats mysis shrimp, clam and spirulina brine shrimp. Tank parameters are all witgin range ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrates are 0.75 and phosphates are 0.08 per red sea kits. I am dealing with bubble algae at the moment so actual levels are skewed. I feed the fish every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, with maybe a feeding of new life spectum pellets on a Saturday or Sunday.

 

[Ento-Reefer]

I don't know why your queen angel is turning white?? I have never seen this before.

Can I ask why you don't feed your fish everyday?

 

[JaimeAdams]

Angels graze, all day every day. He needs more food for starters. Daily feedings at least once a day every day if not twice a day.
#reefsquad

 

[Crabs McJones]

Angels graze, all day every day. He needs more food for starters. Daily feedings at least once a day every day if not twice a day.
#reefsquad

Agreed. They need alot of food and have to be able to graze on algae daily. It could be a nutritional deficiency.

 

[Tonysi]

Sorry to leave out, my wife feeds them pellets on the days i dont feed them frozen. I don't feed frozen every day cause I feed heavy when i do. I have an over sized skimmer and i change 50 gallons of water every week.

 

[lion king]

Try enhancing your food with Brightwell Angelelixir, it has amino acids and other nutrients found in sponges designed for sponge eating fish like angels. My angels seem to respond very well to live black worms as well, possible the fat content. Hikari mega algae and angel mix are 2 more foods I recommend for angels. If he is still eating and no other fish in the tank are effected, I would think it could be a nutritional problem.

 

[Tonysi]

When i had him in qt, when i got him he never touched nori, so thats why i feed the spirulina brine shrimp, and i got him to eat the nls pellets. I will try adding selcon and try the brightwell.

 

[Maritimer]

Daily (or several times daily) feedings, of various kinds of foods, would be a great place to start. Hikari and Ocean Nutrition both make formulations of frozen foods specifically intended for angels, including sponges in the formula. I've seen queens in captivity that seem to be more yellow / less blue and green than wild queens, so I'm not entirely certain that they're getting everything they need from us.

This one, though ... is pretty extreme!

I have heard of fish with aberrant markings whose markings return to normal for their species after a few months in captivity, so . . . Take good care of her, do the best you can for her, and you may wind up having to enjoy a completely unique fish for a while.

~Bruce

 

[4FordFamily]

That doesn’t look like typical angel stress, rather aberrant coloration to me.

Angels also need sponge in their diet to remain healthy. Hikari and ocean nutrition both have an “angel formula” I believe, containing sponge.

They also need nori and greens. Since you don’t feed much throughout the week, af least offer enough nori that the fish can graze 2/3-3/4 the day. It’ll help.

But wow that’s a unique fish! I’m guessing unless it’s deathly ill (doesn’t look it), that you have a rare angel on your hands!

 

[Tonysi]

Thank you all for your responses, ya when I first got the angel I treated it with cp and prazipro and got it accustomed to eating pellet food. It eats basically whatever I put in the tank but I have never witnessed it eating nori, even when it was in qt when I got it. I wil pick up some more food made specifically for angels and try that out.

 

[4FordFamily]

Thank you all for your responses, ya when I first got the angel I treated it with cp and prazipro and got it accustomed to eating pellet food. It eats basically whatever I put in the tank but I have never witnessed it eating nori, even when it was in qt when I got it. I wil pick up some more food made specifically for angels and try that out.

My angels all ate nori, but it’s not something they’ll understand unless they have access to it every day for a few weeks, if needed. Remove uneaten nori each day before the lights go out.

 

[alton]

That doesn’t look like typical angel stress, rather aberrant coloration to me.

Angels also need sponge in their diet to remain healthy. Hikari and ocean nutrition both have an “angel formula” I believe, containing sponge.

They also need nori and greens. Since you don’t feed much throughout the week, af least offer enough nori that the fish can graze 2/3-3/4 the day. It’ll help.

But wow that’s a unique fish! I’m guessing unless it’s deathly ill (doesn’t look it), that you have a rare angel on your hands!

I have to agree, I had a queen back in the early 2,000's and the food we had to feed large angels was not the best Brine Shrimp and sometimes mysis and although my queens color was not the greatest, it never went white.
I would try LRS Herbivore or Reef Frenzy

 

[Cary Hover]

I have a Queen, Passers, Emperor, Majestic, and a Blueline in a 450 gallon tank along with several tangs and misc fish. I feed them Nori on clips at each side of the tank twice a day along with Ocean Nutrition Brine Shrimp Plus, Formula 2 Flake, and Prime Reef Flakes alternating. I give them frozen twice a week for a treat. Frozen will mess your tank up and isn't really necessary. If you want to throw your tank out fast overfeed frozen and watch your phosphates soar. All my angels are in full adult colors. Emperor was in full juv colors when I got him and has totally changed to full adult. They love their nori.

 

[eatbreakfast]

Frozen will mess your tank up and isn't really necessary. If you want to throw your tank out fast overfeed frozen and watch your phosphates soar.

Any food, whether frozen or dry will cause phosphates to rise if overfed.

 

[Cary Hover]

Any food, whether frozen or dry will cause phosphates to rise if overfed.

Very true but if you overfeed frozen food you will add nutrients to the water at a lot faster rate especially if you do not rinse properly.

 

[eatbreakfast]

Very true but if you overfeed frozen food you will add nutrients to the water at a lot faster rate especially if you do not rinse properly.

X amount of nutrients are need by fish, frozen food is more nutrient dense because more fats are available since they haven't been dehydrated out through a drying/baking process. To get the same amount nutrition from dry food, more is needed. Dry food also has less digestable matter, which equals more fish waste.

 

[alton]

Don't tell my fish they can't have LRS Reef Frenzy or Herbivore.