Hi. It’s been a while since I posted. I’m currently still quarantining my scribbled angel pair (see my other thread; will post updates soon). They’ll be out to the dt after a month. I’m actually still struggling what my last angel would be. The Queen angel is nicer in coloration given the bold yellow with some orange tinge, while the Passer has the uniqueness in color (being dark with hints of orange) and is relative more rare than the Queen. I plan to have it as the smallest angel in my 8x2x2 240g (which currently houses my Annularis, Chrysurus, French and eventually my Scribbled pair). I plan on obtaining a juvenile or subadult specimen. Any recommendations and experience on any of the two? Thank you!
Queen or Passer Angel
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I found Passers to be incredibly aggressive. I could not keep one with other angels in my FOWLR. It better be much smaller than a Scribbled. I never had long term success with Queen's although I do see people that do keep them successfully. I could not keep the beautiful natural green-blue coloration in my FOWLR that I observed while diving. Maybe in a reef tank, but I don't think I have seen many pictures of them with that natural coloration in captivity.
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Hopefully you realize how big and aggressive either will be. I’ve personally steered clear of the holacanthus angels. If I had a truly massive tank (12’ thousands of gallons) I would get a queen again, but even my current 450 is too small.
What are the problems encountered with the Queen?
Alright then, if that's the case, what would you suggest as a last fish? I'd pass on an Imperator (they're much too common here lol)
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personally unless you got about a thousand gallon aquarium to house those angels I completely stay away from them, queens are aggressive they generally will kill anything in the tank once they're established and they get some size and passers are dick heads just my opinion
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I scuba dive. You rarely see angels that have not paired up. A pair of queen angels will hang out on the same patch of reef. But their territory seems to be several acres. So unless you have a multi thousand gallon tank, a queen angel would seem to be a bad idea. If you really want an angel, a dwarf angel would be much more suitable. In the wild, they tend to hang out around a single coral head.
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No , I have had a Queen in my 475 for about 3 years. She is about 10 inches. Still has nice coloration, eats like a pig plus they grow very slow. Thanks
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I think that you have enough large angels for your 240 gallon tank, you already have 3 large ones and 2 medium-large ones.
Holacanthus Angels in general are very aggressive and will get very large, if you want to add more angels you can add few medium and small sized angels from other genera like Apolemichthys , genicanthus, centropyge and regal angel.
If you are looking for rare fish some Apolemichthys and genicanthus are pretty rare and have much nicer unique colors than Passer Angel.
Holacanthus Angels in general are very aggressive and will get very large, if you want to add more angels you can add few medium and small sized angels from other genera like Apolemichthys , genicanthus, centropyge and regal angel.
If you are looking for rare fish some Apolemichthys and genicanthus are pretty rare and have much nicer unique colors than Passer Angel.
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fabutahoun
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Yes it includes Goldflake and Bandit which are truly amazing fish.
For the Regal angel, or any other angel you will add to your tank right now, I think it will have better chances with slow social acclimation for a week or even 2
Or You can take out the most aggressor and place it in an acclimation box or the sump or fuge or even QT, and when the regal is established you add that other aggressive fish back to the tank.
For the Regal angel, or any other angel you will add to your tank right now, I think it will have better chances with slow social acclimation for a week or even 2
Or You can take out the most aggressor and place it in an acclimation box or the sump or fuge or even QT, and when the regal is established you add that other aggressive fish back to the tank.
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I'm really bothered by the Regal. I want one, but I've read some stories of Regals stopped eating completely due to the high activity (or aggression) of the tank, unlike the more aggressive ones that can really stand on their own.
