quick question ?

[brandon429]

We cover here that rinsing is not antibacterial it's anti detrital and anti silt and all good

Yes the bac are on the rocks, and still on the sand grains after tap water rinse. Tap is not sterile, it pumps out living nitrifiers in many communities (not from the plant, from your pipe scum)

We cover the hose rinsing with tap, fine idea. Not antibacterial. Allows you to rinse with gallons and not run out due to using saltwater. The final rinse step is with saltwater to evacuate the tap.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/

We saw on a large tank break down thread that poster ReefKnight's live rock had much detritus in it too, so it mini cycled the holding container as he scrubbed off all the algae and that detritus rotted as it sat in holding bins awaiting transfer.

You can do this 100% without a cycle. But finding and not transferring over any detritus will be the challenge. If any moves over, that's the cycle risk.


Getting new wet pack arrive algae sand is ideal. Rinsing the old is ok too. The new tank doesn't need any old waste water or sand transferred unless you just want to do that.

 

[nervousmonkey]

+1 to this advice. ^^^

 

[Hawain_Rob]

Great information. Thank you all. I'll deff get new sand. The only reason I had not consider this was cause I thought,that you need your old sand cause the good bacterial on it.

 

[brandon429]

It's certainly ok to get new wet pack caribsea stuff with bac already on it and no waste, I like that idea. Just rinse it so it will never cloud in my long typed opinion heh

 

[Hawain_Rob]

It's certainly ok to get new wet pack caribsea stuff with bac already on it and no waste, I like that idea. Just rinse it so it will never cloud in my long typed opinion heh

Would it ok to use dry sand?

 

[rayn]

Dry sand is fine, just make sure to rinse it first.

What may be dry to us as we touch it, suddenly gets real cloudy with small particles once it gets wet.

 

[Hawain_Rob]

Dry sand is fine, just make sure to rinse it first.

What may be dry to us as we touch it, suddenly gets real cloudy with small particles once it gets wet.

With the hose? If it wasnt for the everyone here saying it's ok to use the hose...I would've never dare to rinse with the hose (tap water)..lol

 

[nervousmonkey]

With the hose? If it wasnt for the everyone here saying it's ok to use the hose...I would've never dare to rinse with the hose (tap water)..lol

Yep. Hose is fine for dry sand. No reason not to. Just add a gallon or two of saltwater to your bucket to rinse out the tap water and you're fine.

 

[Mark3]

Why wouldn't there be a cycle? ..if it's a new tank I'm only useing a portion of my old water and rinsing my sand with the hose...I guess killing any good bacteria on it.

I was a new tank, but everything in it, other than some water was old....
There was no cycle, because I only changed 30 gallons of water...about 18% of water volume....about the same as a normal water change. All the rock, sand and livestock was from the old tank. The biggest part of the transfer was washing the sand, ... It would be much less work to replace the sand and on your size of tank, I would just go with new sand, and just put a few cups of your old sand in the new tank.

Mark

P.S. I washed about 20 bucket loads of sand....a much bigger job than replacing. But I had more time than money, so, I washed. I have about 5 or 6 inches of sand....lots of washing!

 

[rayn]

Rinsing with the hose isn't going to hold that much water in it. You are rinsing in a bucket. Put sand in bucket, shove hose in sand, rinse with hand and let water overflow overflowing the gunk. Drain bucket without dumping sand out. Put sand in tank.

It shouldn't hold much water.

 

[Rlynch818]

I just went from 65g to 125g. Transferred everything but the sand and added more liverock. I had no problems at all. Even though my old sand was less than 6 months old, I didn't want to chance it. All fish, what little corals I have, crabs, starfish, etc are fine.

 

[Hawain_Rob]

I just went from 65g to 125g. Transferred everything but the sand and added more liverock. I had no problems at all. Even though my old sand was less than 6 months old, I didn't want to chance it. All fish, what little corals I have, crabs, starfish, etc are fine.

What kind of rock did you add?

 

[Hawain_Rob]

I just went from 65g to 125g. Transferred everything but the sand and added more liverock. I had no problems at all. Even though my old sand was less than 6 months old, I didn't want to chance it. All fish, what little corals I have, crabs, starfish, etc are fine.

What kind of rock did you add?

 

[Hawain_Rob]

I just went from 65g to 125g. Transferred everything but the sand and added more liverock. I had no problems at all. Even though my old sand was less than 6 months old, I didn't want to chance it. All fish, what little corals I have, crabs, starfish, etc are fine.

You added cured liverock?

 

[Rlynch818]

I just added liverock from my LFS that I go to weekly and (relatively) trust. 99% of the live stuff that is in my tank over the past 5 years has came from same place. I left it out in the air for about an hour to make sure nothing crawled out then added it in. No problems at all.

 

[Rlynch818]

yes, cured liverock

 

[Hawain_Rob]

I just added liverock from my LFS that I go to weekly and (relatively) trust. 99% of the live stuff that is in my tank over the past 5 years has came from same place. I left it out in the air for about an hour to make sure nothing crawled out then added it in. No problems at all.

Hey you do think if I added new dry rock
It would be ok?

 

[Rlynch818]

I personally have no experience with dry rock. My buddy is setting up a new tank with half dry rock and he said it was REALLY dusty. I also would expect more of a cycle with dry rock, but, again, I personally have no experience with it.

 

[Hawain_Rob]

Cause I'll need to add new rock...hey But I could always do it that later and just add my existing rock.

 

[Hawain_Rob]

So this the plan
Set new tank up
Put new sand in. A cup or 2 of old sand
Put as much old water add new water as needed. Put old liverock in(after washing) put corals and fish...and I'm done! And all is bueno.