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IMO, no kit or checker for iron is really needed or useful for routine husbandry as none can detect as low as NSW levels and there is no reason to keep it higher. Even ICP cannot detect NSW surface levels of iron. ICP can barely detect the iron when I first dose it, and then later it cannot even if it is way above NSW levels (which can be only 0.000006 ppm.

This is from one of my articles on my ICP results:


Iron (Fe). The natural iron level varies a lot with depth, but surface seawater may have only 0.006 µg/L. The Triton LOD = 0.3 µg/L. I dose iron, and when I dose it I boost iron to roughly 1-2 µg/L, which would be detectable. This sample was taken more than a week after the last iron dosing, and none was detected as it gets depleted in the meanwhile. I’ve not yet seen a Triton test result for a real aquarium sample that had detectable iron, but that doesn’t mean these tanks are necessarily deficient. Iron is also a case where the form is critical, and ICP cannot distinguish form. Binding to organic matter, for example, can alter the bioavailability of iron.
I'd be the last person in the world to ignore Randy's advice. I tested iron in my tank using the 1,10 phenanthroline method (the same that Hanna uses.) Using a Hach colorimeter, ferrous iron was 0, ferric iron was 0.1mg/l and total iron was 0.1 as well. However, the estimated detection limit with this set up is 0.3 mg/l so testing didn't tell me much.
 
Thanks for the response guys. Since you both are telling me the same thing I will definitely listen, you guys know your *poop emoji*. I use a Red Sea test kit right now and my iron is usually around .10-.15ppm after I dose Brightwell Ferrion. I usually test 6 days later and it is depleted to 0 or near on the Red sea and I dose again. I just wanted to prevent over dosing. It sounds like there are several forms of Iron that can't be differentiated on a test kit. So is my time better put to use vaccuming the house to keep my wife happy and just assuming the amount of iron I dose is a stable amount and I can continue the weekly dosage without worry? I follow the instructions on the bottle and subtract a tiny amount so if anything I dose on the slightly lower side.
 
Thanks for the response guys. Since you both are telling me the same thing I will definitely listen, you guys know your *poop emoji*. I use a Red Sea test kit right now and my iron is usually around .10-.15ppm after I dose Brightwell Ferrion. I usually test 6 days later and it is depleted to 0 or near on the Red sea and I dose again. I just wanted to prevent over dosing. It sounds like there are several forms of Iron that can't be differentiated on a test kit. So is my time better put to use vaccuming the house to keep my wife happy and just assuming the amount of iron I dose is a stable amount and I can continue the weekly dosage without worry? I follow the instructions on the bottle and subtract a tiny amount so if anything I dose on the slightly lower side.

Red Sea recommends really high levels. 0.15 ppm is "optimal" in their opinion.

My skeptical mind thinks this might mostly be so that it is detectable with their kit. lol

Some folks dose a lot of iron to keep phosphate under control. Glennf (DSR method) does this. Otherwise, that level seems overkill.

Here's what Glennf says:


" When using Iron Citrate never dose over 0,15ppm at one time( measurable 30 minute after dosing). Iron measurement will half within 6 hours and after 24 hour less than 0,02ppm is measured "
 
Okay. Thanks for all the info. I dose it because I know Chaeto and Mangroves like it and requires it to grow. I also know it's helpful to many corals. My tank is only 15 Gallons 13.5 after Rock displacement so I only dose 1 ml of Brightwell Ferrion once a week. Probably won't end up over dosing it sounds like. I wont worry so much about the test then.
 
Okay. Thanks for all the info. I dose it because I know Chaeto and Mangroves like it and requires it to grow. I also know it's helpful to many corals. My tank is only 15 Gallons 13.5 after Rock displacement so I only dose 1 ml of Brightwell Ferrion once a week. Probably won't end up over dosing it sounds like. I wont worry so much about the test then.

Sounds good. I do recommend dosing iron.
 

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