Radion killing sps help!!!!

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

sawdonkey said:
Isn't this advice a little conflicting since you're giving advice on how to operate a UNLS and also advice on high nitrates at the same time? If he's got high nitrates (and I wouldn't consider 4 high) he probably doesn't have a UNLS, and therefore probably has plenty of nutrients, and therefore probably doesn't need aminos?

Are the tips fading to brown, or are they turning white and just getting brown with algae?

They turn brown and later die and get algae on them. I use reef energy, oyster feast, reef chili.

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

EuroGti said:
Telling OP to add a Zeovit reactor is pretty bad advice. It seems he is newer to the hobby, and zeovit is not a easy system to run. His nitrates are not even high IMO.

OP...its prob not the lights. I had a 50 gallon growout tank that ran a radion at 45% and grew coral just fine. I would start from the beginning. Start making your own water and mixing your own salt. Do you run carbon or gfo? Any algae in the tank? How do non sps corals look?

I use 0.8 rox carbon along side ROWA phos. I'm using coral pro salt with 0 TDS water

MattL22 · Jun 9, 2015

Post some pics of ur tank does it look super clean getting any algae growth if anything is lower the radion to 50% until u see things looking better I'd also how much 2 part r u dosing? If ur sps r not living demand low? R ur dosers dialed in?
Probably a combo of things going on possibly radions issue but when I had issue with mine being too high I was bleaching or frying corals pretty much over night

rovster · Jun 9, 2015

Love the title, one suggestion, it should read "I'm killing SPS help!!!"

Mine are growing my SPS just fine...

-Logzor · Jun 9, 2015

My bet is that the ROWA phos is killing them. I don't run carbon or phos on my system. Yes I have some algae but most of my SPS have thrived for 7+ years. Cut out variables to target what the issue is.

The potency of GFO is often not realized or misunderstood. GFO can rip out P04 overnight, resulting in SPS bleaching. Only the absolutely minimum should be used, only in cases with high bio loads where algae problems are present.

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

MattL22 said:
Post some pics of ur tank does it look super clean getting any algae growth if anything is lower the radion to 50% until u see things looking better I'd also how much 2 part r u dosing? If ur sps r not living demand low? R ur dosers dialed in?
Probably a combo of things going on possibly radions issue but when I had issue with mine being too high I was bleaching or frying corals pretty much over night

My dosers are dialed in and all my parameters are stable, never jumpy. I've never had a SPS coral bleach.

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

rovster said:
Love the title, one suggestion, it should read "I'm killing SPS help!!!"

Mine are growing my SPS just fine...

What intensity are you running? I only have one unit.

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

-Logzor said:
My bet is that the ROWA phos is killing them. I don't run carbon or phos on my system. Yes I have some algae but most of my SPS have thrived for 7+ years. Cut out variables to target what the issue is.

The potency of GFO is often not realized or misunderstood. GFO can rip out P04 overnight, resulting in SPS bleaching. Only the absolutely minimum should be used, only in cases with high bio loads where algae problems are present.

It came from a tank using ROWA phos with 0 phosphates.

Wbrian · Jun 9, 2015

What kind of flow do you have in the tank? In the pics posted, it looks like algae on the tips of the corals. Could it be a flow issue?

RFred77 · Jun 9, 2015

Wbrian said:
What kind of flow do you have in the tank? In the pics posted, it looks like algae on the tips of the corals. Could it be a flow issue?

I have an mp10 and an mp40, both on about 80%

heathd.hd · Jun 10, 2015

Could send off a sample to triton! Might give you some results back that would give you an answer.

RFred77 · Jun 10, 2015

heathd.hd said:
Could send off a sample to triton! Might give you some results back that would give you an answer.

Actually that's a great idea I think I will do that!

heathd.hd · Jun 10, 2015

Could be a waste of 50 bucks. But it would be piece of mind.

rovster · Jun 10, 2015

Mine were 65% at the highest, 12" above water, 19" tall tank. Currently at 50% because I've expanded my lighting.....

Joao junior · Jun 10, 2015

Hi,sorry for my english,IME i have radion for 2 years with great results in sps,but when i made changes in my radion configuration ,i have the same problem in some sps ,only the tips turn brown and growing algae,i think the problem is not in light percent but any color,i change my configuration for ecotech configuration with name color.

-Logzor · Jun 10, 2015

RFred77 said:
It came from a tank using ROWA phos with 0 phosphates.

Your SPS came from another tank the runs ROWA? That's fine but every aquarium is different. Too many variables to consider, such as bio load, skimming, etc.

In my experience GFO can burn out SPS if PO4 dips too low.

ronnie · Jun 10, 2015

I'm with Logzor. Turn off carbon and GFO. I never run them either. Just water changes and skimming.

Ease up on using all of the additives and increase your water changes.

I like my nitrates to run around 5-10. Definitely not ULNS and never will be. I don't get why you strip all the nutrients only to add them back with additives. Seems wasteful to me.

joshbbert · Jun 10, 2015

You have one of the best lights around even at 60% its doing its job I would look elsewhere to find the source of your problem. Get back to basics IMO. Retrace your steps, is there something that you did recently to the tank that could be causing this, get the flashlight out at night and look for pests, WC every other day, dip, are you feeding too much, maybe try different ro/di ect ect. I don't think chemicals and additives are the answer or changing your light all over the place its just going to tick things off. Narrow it down and start eliminating your possible cuases. your light is baller so you can check that off the list =) good luck sir hope it turns around for you

RFred77 · Jun 10, 2015

joshbbert said:
You have one of the best lights around even at 60% its doing its job I would look elsewhere to find the source of your problem. Get back to basics IMO. Retrace your steps, is there something that you did recently to the tank that could be causing this, get the flashlight out at night and look for pests, WC every other day, dip, are you feeding too much, maybe try different ro/di ect ect. I don't think chemicals and additives are the answer or changing your light all over the place its just going to **** things off. Narrow it down and start eliminating your possible cuases. your light is baller so you can check that off the list =) good luck sir hope it turns around for you

Perfect! So 60% for one unit is good for high light SPS?

RFred77 · Jun 10, 2015

joshbbert said:
You have one of the best lights around even at 60% its doing its job I would look elsewhere to find the source of your problem. Get back to basics IMO. Retrace your steps, is there something that you did recently to the tank that could be causing this, get the flashlight out at night and look for pests, WC every other day, dip, are you feeding too much, maybe try different ro/di ect ect. I don't think chemicals and additives are the answer or changing your light all over the place its just going to **** things off. Narrow it down and start eliminating your possible cuases. your light is baller so you can check that off the list =) good luck sir hope it turns around for you

Perfect! So 60% for one unit is good for high light SPS?