radion or kessil

I figured I'd chime in because I also have a 150g tall with the same dimensions (48x24x30).

I have two xr30 Gen2 Pro's with narrow lenses, 4x T5, and a LED bar that is 48x 3w LED (supposed to add 100 PAR at 18"). My rock structure is very low and this tank is SPS only. I have a lot of Acros growing in here, including at the bottom. Up to this point I've had good luck with the Radions, but now that the corals are getting bigger I think I am going to have to add more Radions.

I have never taken a PAR measurement, but I am guessing its around 200ish at 30" depth due to the response from the Acros.

The Gen4's you are looking at will have better spread than the narrow TiR's I am running, but probably less PAR at depth. You would probably be best off in the short term by maximizing the spread and going with 4x XR15 model, but long term you will probably need more. I will likely end up with 4x XR30's PLUS the T5 and LEd bar. Without full coverage from supplemental lights the Radions WILL shade and when your frags get big enough they will not be getting the light dispersal they need. Every person and shop I know that has truly "nice" SPS with LED only is doing it with more fixtures than most people are willing to pay for. That's the reality with LED.

If you are intent on just having LED fixtures for high light inhabitants, you might want to consider 2x AP700 or 4x XR30 pro. From what I've seen with my own eyes a single AP700 is better than 2x kessil 360. Or if you are willing to mix lights, then 2x XR30 pro and 4x T5 should give you what you need (at least for quite a while).

Hope that helps,
Ed
 
I have a similar issue looking to light my 150, same depth but 6 feet and 18 wide. I'm looking into the Kessil A360N narrow fixtures over my islands and then one or two wide fixtures in the middle.
 
4 xr15's it is, this is the most future adaptable setup I think. Thank you to all that commented
 
I’ve owned and used them all. Given your options you want four radion xr15 G4 pro. They will have the power to light your deep tank. The kessil and mars aqua do not. And since T5 or mh are not an option, go with the radion for sure.
 
G4 Pros! I am a believer! and with the new diffusion lenses you can eliminate the disco ball effect. and the ability to provide even part at depth.
 
I’ve owned and used them all. Given your options you want four radion xr15 G4 pro. They will have the power to light your deep tank. The kessil and mars aqua do not. And since T5 or mh are not an option, go with the radion for sure.

Wow, mars aqua are not powerful enough for a 150 tall? That’s quite a false statement.

I have to fully disagree as I had them over my 150 tall and had no issues running 100 blue 25-30 whites. They grew wwc sps just fine, perhaps boom corals not so much...

But ya, between these 2 option, radion!
 
Wow, mars aqua are not powerful enough for a 150 tall? That’s quite a false statement.

I have to fully disagree as I had them over my 150 tall and had no issues running 100 blue 25-30 whites. They grew wwc sps just fine, perhaps boom corals not so much...

But ya, between these 2 option, radion!
My sps are no different than WWC sps. ;) In fact, I even carry some WWC sps and have grown them under both Mars Aqua and Radions. The Mars Aqua will "grow" them sure. But the Radions have better spectrum and higher par and the coral will grow faster and usually with better color in my experience. The OP also didn't mention how tall their rockscaping will be or how deep they want to have SPS. The radion will give him the ability to grow a wider variety of sps deeper in the tank than the Mars Aqua.
 
My sps are no different than WWC sps. ;) In fact, I even carry some WWC sps and have grown them under both Mars Aqua and Radions. The Mars Aqua will "grow" them sure. But the Radions have better spectrum and higher par and the coral will grow faster and usually with better color in my experience. The OP also didn't mention how tall their rockscaping will be or how deep they want to have SPS. The radion will give him the ability to grow a wider variety of sps deeper in the tank than the Mars Aqua.

You aren't going to get more PAR out of an XR30 than a black box, much less an XR15. At that depth (30"), the black box is likely producing twice the PAR of the Radion.
 
You aren't going to get more PAR out of an XR30 than a black box, much less an XR15. At that depth (30"), the black box is likely producing twice the PAR of the Radion.
Maybe there was something wrong with my mars aqua then? When I tested it over my 180g at 100% it could barely squeak out 100 par at 24" depth while my radions could hit 250-ish. It even made the tank look dim. Also, the XR15 is the same puck/power as the XR30, just one puck instead of two.
 
If your going with radion’s you may really want to reconsider getting the 30’s on a deep tank, the 15’s are going to struggle.

FWIW, here was my 150 tall running 3 mars aqua. The strawberry shortcake had no issues with color! Lol

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