Radium vs Hamilton 20k spectrum

[jda]

I guess that if you put them on a kill a watt and the pull like 520w each, then they could be.

 

[A. grandis]

Is the Bluewave ballast made by Sunlight Supply not Son Agro? I always thought it was.

Sunlight Supply and PFO both had the "Son Agro" style, also called HQI 400W.
The 400W HQI PFO "Son Agro" style was actually a 470W ballast.
The pictured dual ballasts you have should say " BW-7 DUAL 430W MH HQI" on the label. Please check if that is the case.

 

[A. grandis]

I guess that if you put them on a kill a watt and the pull like 520w each, then they could be.

It was more like 470W.

 

[jda]

There is ballast efficiency losses. The ones that I had pulled over 500w at the plug.

 

[djf91]

Sunlight Supply and PFO both had the "Son Agro" style, also called HQI 400W.
The 400W HQI PFO "Son Agro" style was actually a 470W ballast.
The pictured dual ballasts you have should say " BW-7 DUAL 430W MH HQI" on the label. Please check if that is the case.

 

[jda]

That won't quite run them as hot as the PFO will, so that makes sense that you are not exploding them. A VERY good thing... exploded MH bulbs are no fun.

 

[oreo54]

Still baffles me using HPS ballasts with MH bulbs. Yea both are similar sometimes.

One of the problems that I can see with the ANSI code system for American HID lamps is that it leads us here to think that any lamp used on a mismatched ANSI code ballast will ALWAYS burn out instantly even though a certain pair of lamp types has similar voltage and current such as 150w M102 metal halide and 150w S56 high pressure sodium.

Finally completed a list of the ANSI ballast codes: Mercury Vapor 40w – H45 50w – H46 75/80w – H43 100w – H38 100/125w – H44 175w – H39 250w – H37 400w – H33 700w – H35 1000w – H34 1000w – H36 Metal Halide (Red's Probe Start, Rest's Pulse Start) 20w – M175 22w – M130 35/39w – M130 50w – M110 70w – M98 100w – M90 150w – M102 175w – M57 175w – M152 200w – M136 250w – M58 250w – M153 320w – M154 350w – M131 360w – M165 400w – M59 400w – M155 450w – M144 750w – M149 875w – M166 1000w – M47 1000w – M141 1500w – M48 1650w – M112 Double Ended Metal Halide 70w – M85 100w – M91 150w – M81 250w – M80 1500w – M133 2000w – M134 Low Pressure Sodium Vapor 18w – L69 35w – L70 55w – L71 90w – L72 135w – L73 180w – L74 High Pressure Sodium Vapor 35w – S76 50w – S68 70w – S62 100w – S54 150w – S55 55v 150w – S56 100v 200w – S66 250w – S50 310w – S67 400w – S51 430w – S145 600w – S106 750w – S111 1000w – S52

« Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 06:18:55 PM by FGS »

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There is a better chart farther down pg1.
Never swaw one so comprehensive so I posted it here for an FYI

 

[djf91]

That won't quite run them as hot as the PFO will, so that makes sense that you are not exploding them. A VERY good thing... exploded MH bulbs are no fun.

Yes indeed, I agree.

The conventional wisdom has been if you overdrive 400 watt Radiums their useful life is shortened to around 6-8 months. Given that mine are only being overdriven to 430 watts and not 470, how many months do you think I could get out of these if I run them for 7 hours a day?

 

[jda]

I would use them for a year. I use other bulb for 2. Don't mind a bit of degradation enough to replace them sooner.

 

[t5Nitro]

It looks like we can still get the radium 400 watt bulbs, for now. I like them better than the Hamilton 14K.

 

[mtraylor]

That was my favorite bulb back in the day. I would stock up if I were you

 

[Torontotraders]

It looks like we can still get the radium 400 watt bulbs, for now. I like them better than the Hamilton 14K.

Where can you get them?

 

[t5Nitro]

Hamilton Lighting website. I ordered 400 watt radium 20K bulbs earlier today. They're there. Go get 'em while they're in stock, lol.

Postponing the LEDs yet again, yay.