random white stringy poop, dosed 30+ days of API general cure.

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Good Morning R2R,

My fox face is still having random white stringy poop, I can go weeks without seeing it, fish seems to be at a healthy weight. does this always mean parasites?

it's the only fish I've observed with stringy poop as well. I feed reef frenzy and half a sheet of nori a day.

video of the tank eating you can see the fox.


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and here is a video of the really long poop.


What do you guys think?

should I try metroplex +focus?

or prazi, if I do the prazi I have to remove feather dusters right?
 
Wow, that's really bad. :eek: You can try food soaking Metroplex + Focus, but every other day food soak Prazipro + Focus just in case this is intestinal worms.
 
Wow, that's really bad. :eek: You can try food soaking Metroplex + Focus, but every other day food soak Prazipro + Focus just in case this is intestinal worms.
Could you use Focus with General Cure since it is metro and prazi?
 
Wow, that's really bad. :eek: You can try food soaking Metroplex + Focus, but every other day food soak Prazipro + Focus just in case this is intestinal worms.

so do both prazi and metro at the same time?, won't the prazi kill all bristle worms/tube worms etc.? is this not the same as API general cure?


Could you use Focus with General Cure since it is metro and prazi?


Yes, that would be ideal actually.

I did 30 + days of this already....

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/internal-pathogens.267419/page-9#post-4890950



https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/stringy-poop-2-weeks-into-api-gc.430609/#post-4980444
 
If you've already done 30 days of feeding GC (prazi + metro) then it's time to move onto fenbendazole or levamisole.

Are those reef safe? Do I bind with focus.? I'm not familiar with those 2 medications. Thanks.
 
Are those reef safe? Do I bind with focus.? I'm not familiar with those 2 medications. Thanks.

They are only reef safe if you soak in food and bind with Focus. I've never used levamisole, but fenbendazole has worked for me on a few occasions where prazi + metro failed.
 
Wow, that's really bad. :eek: You can try food soaking Metroplex + Focus, but every other day food soak Prazipro + Focus just in case this is intestinal worms.
What are some instructions when food soaking with Prazipro? Thanks by the way. I’ve been trying to implement your qt method. So far so good. Only issue now is the 1 of my Anthias fish has white stringy poop. I’ve dosed the tank twice with Prazipro. And I’ve been food soaking with GC focus, and Selcon. Please help. I don’t want my fish to die. Thanks again.
 
@Humblefish, I have a similar situation as this thread. I had dosed General Cure with Focus for about three weeks and stopped because the fish seemed back to normal (no white stringy poop). I just noticed my flasher wrasse has the white stringy poop again and decided to try fenbendazole with Focus. Should I dose at a 1:1 ratio of fenbendazole and Focus, and how long should I plan to feed before stopping? Also, do you have a recommended number of times per day to feed the medicated food? I was feeding thawed medicated brine shrimp/other food twice a day for several weeks.
 
@Humblefish, I have a similar situation as this thread. I had dosed General Cure with Focus for about three weeks and stopped because the fish seemed back to normal (no white stringy poop). I just noticed my flasher wrasse has the white stringy poop again and decided to try fenbendazole with Focus. Should I dose at a 1:1 ratio of fenbendazole and Focus, and how long should I plan to feed before stopping? Also, do you have a recommended number of times per day to feed the medicated food? I was feeding thawed medicated brine shrimp/other food twice a day for several weeks.


Hope this helps. From Humblefish's treatment advisory:

For treating intestinal worms (white stringy feces), you can dose fenbendazole into a QT at 2 mg/L (7.6 mg/gallon) once/week for 3 weeks. However, it is probably best to food soak the medication so it passes through the gastrointestinal tract where the worms live. You’ll need to use a binder (e.g. Seachem Focus, unflavored gelatin, Agar) to reduce the loss of medication to the water through diffusion. I recommend feeding fenbendazole for 2-3 weeks, or until symptoms (white stringy poo) are no longer present. My recipe for food soaking medications can be found below:

Using a shot glass:
1 scoop (~ 1/8 teaspoon) of medication (Fenbendazole)
1 scoop Seachem Focus (this makes it reef safe)
1 tbsp food (preferably pellets or frozen food)
A pinch of Epsom salt to help expel dead worms/parasites
A few drops of saltwater or fish vitamins
Stir until a medicated food slurry has been achieved
Feed after soaking for 30 mins
Refrigerate or freeze any leftovers for future use


Noga also discusses using fenbendazole to treat monogeneans (flukes) in his book Fish Disease: Diagnosis and Treatment 2nd Edition. He recommends a 12 hour bath treatment at 25 mg/L (95 mg/gallon). It would be advisable to transfer the fish into a sterile QT following the bath treatment (to prevent reinfection), and to perform a second bath + transfer 1 week later to eliminate any hatchlings. (Same as using praziquantel.)

At the time of this writing, it is still unclear just how “safe” prolonged immersion of fenbendazole is at 95 mg/gallon. Meaning, can it be used the same as praziquantel in a QT: Dosed once, and in 5-7 days perform a 25% water change and dose again (to eliminate eggs/hatchlings). The lower 7.6 mg/gallon dosage appears safe for in-tank use, but is that concentration strong enough to kill skin & gill flukes? One issue with fenbendazole is that it’s not easily water soluble, and turns the water cloudy/milky for at least 12 hours:



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Pros – Effective dewormer that is relatively gentle on most fish.

Cons/Side Effects – Food soaking is reef safe when Seachem Focus is also used. However, unlike prazi it is NOT SAFE to dose fenbendazole into a reef environment. At the time of this writing, fenbendazole is a relatively new medication, so all the downsides/side effects are probably not yet fully understood.
 
@Big G, thank you so much! I just ordered more Focus and will follow recipe. I would have never thought of a pinch of epsom salt! Do you know if it's best to feed several times per day during treatment, as I was doing with the General Cure and Focus?
 
@Big G, thank you so much! I just ordered more Focus and will follow recipe. I would have never thought of a pinch of epsom salt! Do you know if it's best to feed several times per day during treatment, as I was doing with the General Cure and Focus?
Twice a day is usually good to go.
 

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