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Randy: is microbacter 7 a scam?
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attiland
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To be honest MB7 is not really for dinos although have some affect on some strains.
if you have Dinos ID it with microscope and get treatment based on it otherwise you are just experimenting
Ramdude4G
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Was battling cyano and dinos (osteoporosis) for several months. Bought a small reactor to run phosgaurd and carbon in, a uv sterilzer, and started dosing microbacter clean and 7 together as recommended and had them wiped out in just over a week. Ran out of the MB clean so had to go to vibrantt
finish them out. I will note that I removed all my sand at the beginning of the process. Removing the sand had no impact on my nutrients I’ve always had very low nitrates and elevated phosphates. Doing all this and dosing Microbacter Neonitrate and running the reactor for a couple days got my nutrients back in check and where they need to be. Tested last night and Nitr at 18.4 and Phos at .06. So as for me yes I’m a believer in the Microbacter products. The videos won’t upload. Says too large.
finish them out. I will note that I removed all my sand at the beginning of the process. Removing the sand had no impact on my nutrients I’ve always had very low nitrates and elevated phosphates. Doing all this and dosing Microbacter Neonitrate and running the reactor for a couple days got my nutrients back in check and where they need to be. Tested last night and Nitr at 18.4 and Phos at .06. So as for me yes I’m a believer in the Microbacter products. The videos won’t upload. Says too large.
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It’s hardly a backup if you don’t know it works and have never used it previously.
not sure why you asked if it’s worth looking for if you want it as a ‘backup’, seems you already had your answer.
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Have not seen any change by dosing MB-7
Dosing live Phytoplankton has done a great job in past experiences.
Dosing live Phytoplankton has done a great job in past experiences.
So, would that be the phyto, or residual fertilizer, you think?
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I just finished my microbacter 7 and I’m not buying more. The costs and time dosing does not justify the benefit (none).
I do not battle Dinos anymore. Now I just have residual cyano. I turned my skimmer on and I fed really heavy yesterday and got my nitrates to 8ppm and phosphates at .14ppm.
As I always suspected, nothing in a bottle can replace TIME which will cure all.
I do not battle Dinos anymore. Now I just have residual cyano. I turned my skimmer on and I fed really heavy yesterday and got my nitrates to 8ppm and phosphates at .14ppm.
As I always suspected, nothing in a bottle can replace TIME which will cure all.
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I've always dosed your OceanMagik strains for dinos, even though nitrates and phosphates are in check.
Is it your phyto strains or the fertilizers that grow your phyto with, do the job?
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That’s true. Lol.So you've been dosing this for what..a few days? No miraculous response eh? weird
Big E
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It takes months 3-4 if you want to see results from products like MBclean and MB7. It also depends on what you're trying to do. Bacteria/carbon dosing isn't something you should get into if you're impatient.
Once it gets established though you can obtain years of stability and success. This goes for any good commercial bacterial system.
I'm only speaking for Acro dominated tanks.
If you want to see results of MB7 and vodka dosing search for Sonnys thread on ReefCentral or do some other searches on the net.
There's some good info here---
Once it gets established though you can obtain years of stability and success. This goes for any good commercial bacterial system.
I'm only speaking for Acro dominated tanks.
If you want to see results of MB7 and vodka dosing search for Sonnys thread on ReefCentral or do some other searches on the net.
There's some good info here---
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3-4 months sounds too long to me to claim the MB7 is useful. Maybe the problems resolved for other reasons while you (or whoever saw a change in 3-4 months) waited 3-4 months.
Getnsalty
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It's what I had used to outcompete it. Basically took over the cyano's real estate. That and only running my skimmer during the day. Had a long talk with Dr. Tim and the way he explained it to me was mechanical filtration is so superior these days that we don't let nature do it's work in the tank. We strip so much nutrients out of the water that it kills off the good bacteria so to say and leaves open real estate for the bad bacteria being dino's and cyano.
TnFishwater98
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There is a recent thread on Reef2Reef about dead /live phyto... Cheato or other Macro algaes would help outcompete Dino to my knowledge. I’ve never had Dino to a degree to where I even noticed. I believe using real LR where algae is already present helps fight off the ugly stages in newer tanks.
