RBTA sudden problem

[ErikT]

Is it possible for maroons to exhaust the anemone. I had this RBTA close to a year with one lightning maroon. Month ago added another one and my anemone went from this to this.
Please help. I don’t thing it’s water bcs every other coral is thriving including carpet anemones.

 

[moz71]

How long has it been in this condition? Mine just went into a similar funk for about 5 days but bounced back to normal. Seems to do this once in awhile.

 

[i_declare_bankruptcy]

Any changes to food? Did you add another RBTA? It's suggested (not sure if proven) that chemical warfare can be an issue with anemones but I'm not expert on the matter. Just something to look into. Running carbon?

Also maybe look into trends in your NO3 and PO4 levels.

 

[ErikT]

How long has it been in this condition? Mine just went into a similar funk for about 5 days but bounced back to normal. Seems to do this once in awhile.

For about a week now. I hope it bounces back. Changed water today, by weekly schedule.

 

[NewGoby]

Any changes to food? Did you add another RBTA? It's suggested (not sure if proven) that chemical warfare can be an issue with anemones but I'm not expert on the matter. Just something to look into. Running carbon?

Also maybe look into trends in your NO3 and PO4 levels.

BTA's will not fight each other, lots of people keep multiple (same species) anemone's near one another, they can't (or wont?) sting each other.

Edit: post tank params, what you feed the anemone & any change in lighting.

 

[ErikT]

Any changes to food? Did you add another RBTA? It's suggested (not sure if proven) that chemical warfare can be an issue with anemones but I'm not expert on the matter. Just something to look into. Running carbon?

Also maybe look into trends in your NO3 and PO4 levels.

BTA's will not fight each other, lots of people keep multiple (same species) anemone's near one another, they can't (or wont?) sting each other.

Edit: post tank params, what you feed the anemone & any change in lighting.

Nitrate 10ppm
Phosphate 0.06ppm
Alk 8.1
Cal 445
Mag 1445
I know that No/Po is little high but you think it could be the problem?

But, no one here thinks that maroons are bearing up the anemone?

 

[ErikT]

PS I stopped feeding for some time bcs clowns manage to drop krill to it once in a while, once every few weeks

 

[Cell]

Nitrate 10ppm
Phosphate 0.06ppm
Alk 8.1
Cal 445
Mag 1445
I know that No/Po is little high but you think it could be the problem?

But, no one here thinks that maroons are bearing up the anemone?

Your nitrate and phosphate levels are fine. Not the issue.

 

[shred5]

Is it possible for maroons to exhaust the anemone. I had this RBTA close to a year with one lightning maroon. Month ago added another one and my anemone went from this to this.
Please help. I don’t thing it’s water bcs every other coral is thriving including carpet anemones.

It is possible I have seen clowns love a anemone to death.
Certain clowns can sometimes be to ruff on their anemone.

 

[i_declare_bankruptcy]

Do you monitor trends in your water parameters? That's more of what I was getting at with NO3/PO4.

I suggested food changes because I had an issue where my nem was eating its tentacles, shriveling up and looking like yours. Eventually I swapped food as a last ditch effort and the anemone bounced back. Tested again with the food and same result. But if you haven't changed your food then likely not it.

 

[sixty_reefer]

How often do you feed it?

 

[ErikT]

Do you monitor trends in your water parameters? That's more of what I was getting at with NO3/PO4.

I suggested food changes because I had an issue where my nem was eating its tentacles, shriveling up and looking like yours. Eventually I swapped food as a last ditch effort and the anemone bounced back. Tested again with the food and same result. But if you haven't changed your food then likely not it.

I don’t feed my anemone, maybe it’s hunger?

 

[Cell]

I don’t feed my anemone, maybe it’s hunger?

If your light is sufficient, you need not feed it at all.

 

[moz71]

Should not be hunger if clowns are hosting. They should drop food in it. At least that is the theory. I heard once clowns host no need to feed but I am no expert. I haven’t fed mine in weeks.

 

[moz71]

Also have no experience about clowns them beating them up but I could u sweat and that since it is the one major change

 

[ErikT]

Should not be hunger if clowns are hosting. They should drop food in it. At least that is the theory. I heard once clowns host no need to feed but I am no expert. I haven’t fed mine in weeks.

They do drop food into anemone but only pieces that are too large for their own mouth, like krill.

 

[laverda]

BTA's will not fight each other, lots of people keep multiple (same species) anemone's near one another, they can't (or wont?) sting each other.

Edit: post tank params, what you feed the anemone & any change in lighting.

I will argue that you are wrong on that statement. Noted anemone experts say not to mix unrelated BTA together and to not mix them with other species of anemones. While they may not sting each other chemical warfare seems to be another matter. I had 8-12 BTAs in two variants, Rose BTAs & purple and green BTAs in my tank for years. I always had at least 4 of each. Typically they were 10-12” across. 2 years ago I added a single 5” rainbow RBTA to my tank. It kept splitting and growing. In 2 years it has produced 30+ clones and several of them are now the biggest in my tank at 10-14” across. In the same time frame the P&G BTA has not split once and the RBTAs have only split twice. More notable is that all my original RBTAs have gotten much smaller at only 3” or so.

 

[Lance M.]

Should not be hunger if clowns are hosting. They should drop food in it. At least that is the theory. I heard once clowns host no need to feed but I am no expert. I haven’t fed mine in weeks.

Its kind of random. Some times clowns will accidentally feed nems, some times clowns will steal food from nems.
Either way, an appropriate lighting set up should be in place when keeping nems. Target feeding should be considered a bonus.

I will argue that you are wrong on that statement. Noted anemone experts say not to mix unrelated BTA together and to not mix them with other species of anemones. While they may not sting each other chemical warfare seems to be another matter. I had 8-12 BTAs in two variants, Rose BTAs & purple and green BTAs in my tank for years. I always had at least 4 of each. Typically they were 10-12” across. 2 years ago I added a single 5” rainbow RBTA to my tank. It kept splitting and growing. In 2 years it has produced 30+ clones and several of them are now the biggest in my tank at 10-14” across. In the same time frame the P&G BTA has not split once and the RBTAs have only split twice. More notable is that all my original RBTAs have gotten much smaller at only 3” or so.

I have noticed similar "coincidences" over the years when having different bta's with each other but no definitive info.
Most of the debate I've read is housing wild with aquacultured bta's. There are many instances were people mix different nems or different variants of the same nem with no issue, but I would find it odd if there was not some incompatibility possible. I keep a mix of wild and aquacultured bta's in the same tank. 4 variants, about 20+ individuals.



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Updated pic?

 

[ErikT]

I did add five small carpet anemones a month ago but they are on a rock good five inches away

 

[NewGoby]

Nitrate 10ppm
Phosphate 0.06ppm
Alk 8.1
Cal 445
Mag 1445
I know that No/Po is little high but you think it could be the problem?

But, no one here thinks that maroons are bearing up the anemone?

I will argue that you are wrong on that statement. Noted anemone experts say not to mix unrelated BTA together and to not mix them with other species of anemones. While they may not sting each other chemical warfare seems to be another matter. I had 8-12 BTAs in two variants, Rose BTAs & purple and green BTAs in my tank for years. I always had at least 4 of each. Typically they were 10-12” across. 2 years ago I added a single 5” rainbow RBTA to my tank. It kept splitting and growing. In 2 years it has produced 30+ clones and several of them are now the biggest in my tank at 10-14” across. In the same time frame the P&G BTA has not split once and the RBTAs have only split twice. More notable is that all my original RBTAs have gotten much smaller at only 3” or so.

I've never heard of in fighting between the same species of anemone - and I've never experienced it either I have multiple BTA's - all are growing amazingly well, and are touching each other, all surrounding coral are growing very well aswell.