Recovery from Dino-x

[Thor2j]

So I tried dino-x to rid myself of dinos in my sand. Made it to dose 5 before I couldn't take the damage to my SPS anymore. Almost all pores have closed. Since then I have done 2 25% water changes and replaced the carbon twice in my reactor.

I'm sure it's slightly related but I had wood floors glued down in my house around this dosing time. My main tank with SPS is far away from the work area but somewhere with 2 ACs the air gets over there. My tank in the bedroom where the floors went developed a bacterial bloom and is now recovering but took 2 weeks. Both tanks went from around 0.03 po4 and 5-8 Nitrates to zero on both. Main take ORP also dropped 20%.

My main question I need help with is what can I do to help my tank recover. I've been feeding 3 times a day instead of 1 or 2. My SPS look terrible. Didn't really want to change water today but wanted to dilute the dino-x as much as possible. I've also been putting in reef roids once a week.

 

[jwshiver]

I had a bad experience with Dino-x myself. First of all it didn't work and then it ticked off and/or killed my SPS and some LPS. I threw out the Dino-X, did four 30% weekly water changes, waited out the damage for a few weeks, then went shopping for new coral. Sorry for what your going through. It sucks. I had much better results treating the dino with H2O2. If it is like what I experienced I would continue with the water changes, keep everything stable and wait it out.

 

[Thor2j]

Still recovering from dino-x. Almost all SPS is bleached and growth is non existent. Polyps are still mostly retracted as well. ORP is finally only about 5% below where it was. Nitrates are up to about 0.5. Phosphate shows 1 on ULR. Have been feeding 4 times a day, reef roids once a week, did 3 days of red sea AB, and some other liquid stuff for corals, can't remember its name. With all that Nitrates still really low. Bought stump remover but am going to wait to see if all this will bring it up.

Dino-x sucks!!!!

 

[Lionfish Lair]

I'm sure it's slightly related but I had wood floors glued down in my house around this dosing time. My main tank with SPS is far away from the work area but somewhere with 2 ACs the air gets over there. My tank in the bedroom where the floors went developed a bacterial bloom and is now recovering but took 2 weeks. Both tanks went from around 0.03 po4 and 5-8 Nitrates to zero on both. Main take ORP also dropped 20%.

I would like to hear more what others think about this being a likely variable.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I would like to hear more what others think about this being a likely variable.

orp according to most is not an indicator of any specific. should be ignored.
The glue yes. Its fuels something in the most common strain of bacteria(like air freshener) and dino's as well. its an organic(I don't know with one). Vibrant does the same to dinos very very often(esp in overdose), as does some of the eggcrate in fragracks.

So a bloom is going to eat the heck out of the nutrints yes. PH also probably dropped(another of many things measured in OPR) as the bacteria produce c02.

In a sterile tank its easy to have an organism bloom with no competition.

Id add Garf Grunge. Sally Jo has a shipping sale right now!

 

[Thor2j]

orp according to most is not an indicator of any specific. should be ignored.
The glue yes. Its fuels something in the most common strain of bacteria(like air freshener) and dino's as well. its an organic(I don't know with one). Vibrant does the same to dinos very very often(esp in overdose), as does some of the eggcrate in fragracks.

So a bloom is going to eat the heck out of the nutrints yes. PH also probably dropped(another of many things measured in OPR) as the bacteria produce c02.

In a sterile tank its easy to have an organism bloom with no competition.

Id add Garf Grunge. Sally Jo has a shipping sale right now!

I realize orp isn't that specific but I promise u when it drops 20% something is wrong with tank. I have 8 months or orp monitoring and it very consistent. When PH goes up orp goes down. My pH didn't change one bit from its normal 8.2 during lights on and 8.0 when lights out. Not even sure if the wood glue effected my bigger tank like it did my small tank located in the room with the glue. The dino-x is what did in my large tank. SPS Polyps on tank where wood glue was are still out, not on mine.

As it was explained to my the polyurethane is like carbon dosing, stripped it all. Still can't get Nitrates in the small tank. Most likely when I get back in town will add stump remover.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I realize orp isn't that specific but I promise u when it drops 20% something is wrong with tank.

oh I get it.

As it was explained to my the polyurethane is like carbon dosing, stripped it all.

correct.

IMO. Its going to take time. IME it takes about 2 weeks to see nutrients rise from over feeding. Whether dosing is faster I don't know. I would consider looking lowering the light level(esp if your running a higher ALK) to slow down how fast the coral metabolises the nutrints. A common practice for some who are running ULNS.

I do forget how dino x works exactly.

 

[Thor2j]

oh I get it.


correct.

IMO. Its going to take time. IME it takes about 2 weeks to see nutrients rise from over feeding. Whether dosing is faster I don't know. I would consider looking lowering the light level(esp if your running a higher ALK) to slow down how fast the coral metabolises the nutrints. A common practice for some who are running ULNS.

I do forget how dino x works exactly.

I turned lights down a little. Targeting 8.5 alk

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I hope it works out.

 

[Lionfish Lair]

So, do you think if the gluing wasn't going on, this would have happened? I know you can't say for sure, but just looking for your hypothesis on likelihood. I don't know much about this stuff.

 

[Thor2j]

So, do you think if the gluing wasn't going on, this would have happened? I know you can't say for sure, but just looking for your hypothesis on likelihood. I don't know much about this stuff.

In my small tank, reefer 170 it was 100% glue. In my large tank I'm leaning towards 80% dino-x 20% glue. I just dont know enough about dino-x. Can it completely strip Nitrates and phosphates from a tank in 5 doses? I know the air in the rooms get mixed by the 2 air conditioning units and as lethal it was in my small tank cant imagine the glue fumes didn't have an effect. I'm just sickened because all my SPS were doing so well. Had watched them really grow as I was keeping the pH higher. Now not sure of the 12 or so I have if they will recover.

80/20 is a complete guess but I'm feeling they both had an effect.