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Hello, I'm having trouble with red cyno , I have a 210 gal. With a 55gal sump , I'm running led lights 8 hrs changed all my filters in r.o. change 30 gal. Of water every 2 weeks. After I vacuum my substrate 2 days later it comes right back.the cyno is only in the gravel .just can't seem to figure out .I'm also running a gfo reactor and carbon as well. any help would be greatly appreciated.thanks
 
Do you really have gravel? If so that might be where some of it's hanging out. I had in on my 56 and it was a pain to get rid of. I started doing larger water changes weekly.. About 20 gallons. Pulled all I could out every time I did a water change and lower the times my lights were running to 8 hours a day.. Took me about 2 months, but after so it left and the year later I had thattank set up was never an issue again.
 
I think you need to increase your water change to 20 gal a week and do a black out for about 3 days. That may help.
 
Where are your phosphates at? It won't cure the problem but try to get more flow towards the areas it is showing up at. It seams to luv low flow areas. My bet will be on the phosphates though.
 
Kill your lights and stop feeding until it clears.

then resume with less lighting and feeding and adjust to the good stuff thrives and the cyano does not come back.

I like to use macros to help also.


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A common cause is detritus buildup in the rocks and/or sand bed. Low alkalinity, old lights, inadequate flow, and lots of flow all seem to encourage it. Seems GFO-proof. Low-light will slow it. No-light will stop it (and anything else photosynthetic, of course.).

Use a power head or turkey baster on the rocks and swizzle your finger or something around in the sand (e.g.) under flow sources, at bases of rocks. You could see a little pure-white cloud from the sand if it's very clean. Other than that, nothing is the only acceptable thing to see coming out of your sand or rocks when you test like this.

Assuming you do find detritus in the sand bed (usually the worst offender), then if it's reasonable to gravel-vac the sand bed (I mean deep-clean), you could start with that and see if it's enough. Most of the time, the effort required to un-gunk a sand bed isn't worth it so I recommend a paced removal of the old sand over a few weeks and optionally replacing it or maintaining a bare-bottom tank. And fix the cause! Usually inadequate flow and/or too much rock kinda combine to make things difficult. Sometimes rearranging flow is enough. Other time you need to add more flow. (Sometimes more, smaller pumps are better than fewer, large pumps.)

Let us know what you find! :)

-Matt
 
A common cause is detritus buildup in the rocks and/or sand bed. Low alkalinity, old lights, inadequate flow, and lots of flow all seem to encourage it. Seems GFO-proof. Low-light will slow it. No-light will stop it (and anything else photosynthetic, of course.).

Use a power head or turkey baster on the rocks and swizzle your finger or something around in the sand (e.g.) under flow sources, at bases of rocks. You could see a little pure-white cloud from the sand if it's very clean. Other than that, nothing is the only acceptable thing to see coming out of your sand or rocks when you test like this.

Assuming you do find detritus in the sand bed (usually the worst offender), then if it's reasonable to gravel-vac the sand bed (I mean deep-clean), you could start with that and see if it's enough. Most of the time, the effort required to un-gunk a sand bed isn't worth it so I recommend a paced removal of the old sand over a few weeks and optionally replacing it or maintaining a bare-bottom tank. And fix the cause! Usually inadequate flow and/or too much rock kinda combine to make things difficult. Sometimes rearranging flow is enough. Other time you need to add more flow. (Sometimes more, smaller pumps are better than fewer, large pumps.)

Let us know what you find! :)

-Matt
+1 good info.And i wouldn't do a black out thats just a temporary fix
 
Thanks for all the in-put I am working on it.I'm also thinking on a new skimmer any suggestions? Can I replace all the sand with live sand? I will be moving tank to a new house in two weeks.
 
As they said its a temp. Fix n i had the same problem a long time ago. The way I fixed it was by adding a stronger clean up crew. Try adding some stuff like a couple sea cucumbers or sand sifting starfish to stir up the sand n even some filter feeders to catch the spores like flame scallop ect. Also maybe up your powerheads n have them pointed at the gravel
 
Unless you feel your corals are in danger I wouldn't do anything until you see what things are like after the move.

I would dispense with the sand bed during the move for sure.

-Matt
 

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